Thread: What's the dealio with GOP candidate Ron Paul?

I consider myself a harcore democrat, but Paul would have my vote, as would any green party candidate that had a chance of winning. Giving Paul the nomination is the only way Republicans could steal votes from the democrats. Is it just a coincidence that the polar opposite of Bush is running as a Republican...hmmm

One thing I don't like about him is that he is against sactions. He's all for trading at will with countries with any kind of agenda, human rights abuses, etc. I think not doing business with people is one of our countries greatest weapons as an alternative to war.

$$$ With regards to his money that was raised. $$$
It was raised in a day not in just one day.

If yaa know what I am saying? $$$

Do we still have an entire year left?

Originally Posted by Moonbeam

One thing I don't like about him is that he is against sactions. He's all for trading at will with countries with any kind of agenda, human rights abuses, etc. I think not doing business with people is one of our countries greatest weapons as an alternative to war.

Well, maybe some countries would change their pace if we gave them something to emulate.

You seem to think that since he is against certain things that means he is for the opposite. Such as since he vetoed animal rights bills, he is therefore going to go home and beat his dog.

He is against sanctions because he feels that trading and talking and being diplomatic will achieve more than holding back goods that the innocent people of those countries need, which was one of the reasons Osama Bin Laden gave for 9/11, the sanctions we placed on Iraq.

If our country actually was the richest and the free-est in the world then a lot of people would be more attracted to democracy.

Originally Posted by jaasum

You seem to think that since he is against certain things that means he is for the opposite. Such as since he vetoed animal rights bills, he is therefore going to go home and beat his dog.

Um, no I don't, I don't know how you determined that. I never said anything of the kind. Should I not judge him on his record, and whether I agree with the way he voted? That doesn't have anything to do with his personal life, which I know absolutely nothing about and wasn't even speculating on.

The man wants to change our currency to gold. That's never going to happen. Also, I agree with Moonbeam on him being against sanctions. I'd vote for Rudy Guiliani?, if the election was tomorrow, but theres still a whole year left so I'd say its too early to make any decisions yet.

Just out of curiosity, Universal Mind, what political party to you consider yourself affiliated with?

Originally Posted by Rasenganxxchidori

Just out of curiosity, Universal Mind, what political party to you consider yourself affiliated with?

I side the most with Libertarians, but I don't vote for them in national elections any more because I disagree with them so much on foreign policy. They also have no hope of winning the presidency right now, but they would really get somewhere if they would start advertising more. I think their foreign policy ideas would probably make sense in a future when totalitarianism is not so prevalent in the world. Until then, I am going to disagree with their anti-intervention stances concerning other countries. Eventually, the Libertarian party might be a major party and might have the right kind of world for their foreign policy ideas. When that happens, I will be one of their biggest supporters.

Everyone always likes saying it's never going happen with Ron Paul. With attitudes and intentions out there like that, of course his chances for success will seem to dwindle. The worst thing someone can do is throw up their hands, consider all hope is lost, and concede defeat before the battle has even begun. Any candidate is only as powerful or as weak as the people believe them to be. Doesn't matter how many underhanded deals, bribes, and contributions they've received. If their monetary backed facade of power starts wearing thin in the public eye, they immediately lose their illusionary power.

Period.

I choose to believe...he actually has a chance. Otherwise, we might as well be bending over and taking the RFID chips in the ass, branding ourselves as cattle as we cast our ballots for the other candidates.

wanna know what hte fuck the dealio is with this mothewr gvucker!!!!?????k He'sa tog at least ONE vote --- uyout fu kin asshole shit cum licking commie capitalist q2hores!!!!36

that is all.

If he loses, I'm blaming YOU!!!!

I want whatever he's having...

God damn' streaitght--- Thisa is exacltly how I'll be qhen I vote --- ASS WHOLEW MURTHER FUCKERS WHO THINK YOU KNOEWW HTST THE FUCK IS BEST FOR THIS PIESE OF POISONED NASTIVE AMERICS LAND!!!!!

(9can't wIAIT to c what this lloks liker later....)

btw -0-- tha'ts all this whole election boils down to....who voetes SOBER!!!

Originally Posted by Tornado Joe

God damn' streaitght--- Thisa is exacltly how I'll be qhen I vote --- ASS WHOLEW MURTHER FUCKERS WHO THINK YOU KNOEWW HTST THE FUCK IS BEST FOR THIS PIESE OF POISONED NASTIVE AMERICS LAND!!!!!

(9can't wIAIT to c what this lloks liker later....)

btw -0-- tha'ts all this whole election boils down to....who voetes SOBER!!!

Dude, I think you were aiming for this thread... http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=12857 It looks like you found it earlier and left a message that makes even less sense than that one.

Nope, I hit this one right on the head. Ron Paul for Prez! Who cares if it's a wasted vote -- we ended up with a wasted president already, twice!





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Originally Posted by Tornado Joe

Nope, I hit this one right on the head. Ron Paul for Prez! Who cares if it's a wasted vote -- we ended up with a wasted president already, twice!

What happened to the wasted Tornado Joe?

lol aI am cedrunk too lol ahhahahahahahaha shit.

Holy shit universal mind, you gotta quit sucking from the tit of george bush and you might be someone I agree with politically.

Originally Posted by jaasum

Holy shit universal mind, you gotta quit sucking from the tit of george bush and you might be someone I agree with politically.

Oh yeah? Well you need to stop humping Usama Bin Laden's leg while blaring porno music. I know you love doing it, but you are making him too happy. Have you considered using a paper mache Usama?

What happened to the wasted Tornado Joe?

LOL - half an hour, 29 words - it's amazing what you can accomplish if you put your time into it!

I apologize for my sensless injection in the thread - Don't drink and post, kids!

Now, I think at this point I'd consider myself a Ron Paul supporter - however - I'm only going on first few impressions. With the elections right around the corner, I should be taking more time to research the forerunners. I will say this, it's difficult to vote your conscious and not let frustration take over.

Originally Posted by Tornado Joe

LOL - half an hour, 29 words - it's amazing what you can accomplish if you put your time into it!

I apologize for my sensless injection in the thread - Don't drink and post, kids!

Now, I think at this point I'd consider myself a Ron Paul supporter - however - I'm only going on first few impressions. With the elections right around the corner, I should be taking more time to research the forerunners. I will say this, it's difficult to vote your conscious and not let frustration take over.

Well, we certainly know how to get under your skin.
Around the corner!!!

I still say Obama should win....

So, what has the argument evolved into? Is America still considered the biggest shithole on earth?

Whats really getting Ron Paul a lot of ground is all his supporters really think he has a chance. Their all backing him 100% and believe he can do it. That and people want him to win. Hes not the best of the worst, hes just the best. No one is saying, "Oh he can beat hillary so I am voting for him." What kind of voting is that? The goal isn't to spite the other guy, but to put someone in place that you actually agree with.

As for Universal Mind, why do you place so much importance on one issue? Problems in our own country are far more important than stuff going on in the rest of the world. How can we help anyone if the dollar collapses and we go bankrupt as a nation? Ron Paul is the only person even speaking about the real issues that are killing this country. You know he is only elected for 4 years, and if he gets elected again then 8 years, thats it. Let him fix our monetary policies, and improved the standard of living here in the US. Once the budget is balance, and we pay off our insane debt, THEN we can try and help other countries.

Its like on air planes, they always warn you. Incase there is a suddenly loss of air pressure, always place your own oxygen mask on first, then help the person next to you. Here you are, running up and down the plane trying to help other people and you forget yourself. What happens? You pass out then die. You can only really help people after you help yourself.

Originally Posted by SolSkye

I choose to believe...he actually has a chance. Otherwise, we might as well be bending over and taking the RFID chips in the ass, branding ourselves as cattle as we cast our ballots for the other candidates.

Wait... are you saying that if we don't vote for Ron Paul, we're branded cattle?
That sounds so incredibly ignorant I almost didn't want to type this.

Ron Paul will never win. It's really that simple. Voting for him is like voting for Nader. (I wonder if he is still around...) anyway, vote for Guliani. He is a somewhat moderate Republican whose ideas are not crazy and radical.

As much as I hate the Iraq war, I think pulling out of it before we're done would be a terrible choice.

Despite Giuliani's popularity within the Republican party, I think his chances of winning a national election are slim at best. He would be able to easily win the Republican base, but it would be very difficult for him to reach 51% of the public with his platform. He may be liberal on social issues, but voters still think the most important issue is the Iraq war. With 2/3 against the war, Giuliani would be in the difficult situation of explaining why most of the public has got it all wrong.

Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming

I still say Obama should win....

So, what has the argument evolved into? Is America still considered the biggest shithole on earth?

Half/Dreaming! I wasn't expecting you back here so soon. I hope you've been doing okay. Have you been fighting Al Qaeda? Are they going to be ready to smoke a peace pipe with us if we will just get out of the Middle East?

Originally Posted by R.D.735

Despite Giuliani's popularity within the Republican party, I think his chances of winning a national election are slim at best. He would be able to easily win the Republican base, but it would be very difficult for him to reach 51% of the public with his platform. He may be liberal on social issues, but voters still think the most important issue is the Iraq war. With 2/3 against the war, Giuliani would be in the difficult situation of explaining why most of the public has got it all wrong.

Clinton voted for the war and has been all over the place on where she stands on withdrawal.