Thread: What's the dealio with GOP candidate Ron Paul?

Originally Posted by R.D.735

I'm not sure about the gold standard. It sounds good, but without eliminating fractional reserve banking, bank runs are inevitable. Fractional reserve banking, though, is the core of the banking system.

I don't know enough about economics to know. I always assumed the gold standard was a good thing (even I realize that printing money at will can't be good).

Anyway, are there any other countries who still use some kind of standard, and how does it work for them?

And Alric--I think most people can't pay back their debts is because they are not smart about what they borrow.

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Glen Beck is an idiot. It sounds like he wants to use the military for "enemies within", which are people who disagree with him. I hate how people like him call themselves libertarians.

hes a windbag.

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boy Am I glad i found this thread! My candidate is Dennis Kucinich. Ron paul would be great for president as well. Both men i feel, want to stop this false war. Kucinich also wants to impeach Cheney!

Anyway don't get upset by Universal Mind. In the Illuminati thread, he claims to be a part of it.

The Illuminati, for those who don't know Are the secret rganization keeping corrupt monetary systems in place. Their primary goal: World Domination where you have a One world government, A world police force which brutalise the population if they step out of line, a microchip society where everyone is monitored by computers, and last but not least Concentration Camps where people like me who aren't susceptible for mind control are sent to be slaughtered and/or tested on.

Don't believe me? 911 was set up so George w Bush, could pass a law wherin International law VETOs US law. This law states That if you are suspected of being a terrorist. the police can search your home and take you without warrant, or being told why you are being held. Thy can hold you indefinately with no trial or lawyer, even excecute you!. This sounds a bit familiar.... kind of like Nazi Germany! which BTW Prescott Bush (granpa of our beloved george Dubya) Helped Fund hitler. If you don't believe me i seriously suggest you do your own research, the FACTS out there!

Candidates like Clinton and Guliani all have ties to these Illuminati in one form or another.

It is candidates like Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich who want to End this corruption and this truth embargo. But, alas it makes your heart sink. UM is right when he says they will never be president. The presidents are no longer selected by democracy but are rather selected by the people who Own the 5 major media outlets, The Bilderburg corp. Every recent president who was in power within the last couple decades Attended their meeting just before an election. This includes goerge bush and Bill Clinton. Our whole vision of democracy is being chipped away bit by bit. People are so concrened with their 9-5 jobs, getting children to school, Beer and the superbowl, or drug addiction, or gang violence, that people are not aware of the FACTS that their freedoms being taken away one by one.

And by the time the general population wakes up to this harsh reality it will be too late.

While all those statements of the facts are true, your opinion on those facts is too bleak an outlook. If you concede defeat before it's even over, they've already succeeded in beating you. They have no more power over the people than that which you give them by submitting.

It ain't over until the fat lady sings.

Unfortunately, I agree with you, Ranma. All people care about is their own immediate gratification, buying a bunch of crap, having an SUV plus cheap gas to put into it, and sports.

Ron Paul is going to have a big mass donation day on December 16, the anniversary of the Boston Tea Party.

The 16th is a bit late, unfortunately. Advertising money must be spent well in advance of the primaries to bolster support before they occur. Advertising after the primaries is effective only if he is nominated.

Ron Paul needs to win some early primaries in order to get his foot in the door. Doing so would give him legitimacy and help secure further victories. Not doing so would likely doom his campaign.

Oh. Hopefully he will.

A little off-topic--isn't it stupid how the candidates just slam the other members of their party? It seems like that just makes them all look bad, all that fighting and name-calling before they are elected.

Why doesn't each party pick their own person privately? That would be a better way to do it. Spend their own money instead of the tax-payers for the primaries.

Also, let more parties participate, of course.

Well this past weekend I saw the first sign of a following in my town - I was approached by this gentleman while in my car at the grocery store and he asked if I was was familiar with Ron Paul. I said "Oh, absolutely! Is he coming to town?", as he handed me a Ron Paul fact card. I gotta say, the expression on his face was probably more of surprise than content - lol.

It wasn't until after I pulled away that I thought I probably should have asked where the local supporters are and if they needed any volunteers. Ah well, let's see if he gets that $12 million before end of year.

boy Am I glad i found this thread! My candidate is Dennis Kucinich.

Heh, yah well I'm from Ohio so unfortunately around here he seems to come across as a bit of the local idiot. But whatever, anyone who can hold their own up against some of those big guns is worth some consideration.

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Originally Posted by Tornado Joe

Heh, yah well I'm from Ohio so unfortunately around here he (kucinich) seems to come across as a bit of the local idiot. consideration.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1fOt6UGROi8

he seems pretty smart to me!

So did anyone watch the YouTube Republican debate? I didn't catch it, but from what I've heard and the clips I've seen, Ronnie did alright. In fact, CNN had a poll you could take on their site and apparently Ron Paul kicked ass! Which is weird, because I heard he didn't have much airtime.

Heh did very well. The crowd was rather mixed on his views about the war in Iraq (which could only be expected), but he did great on every issue, overall.

Seriously, he wins on every poll. He didn't get a fair amount of time but the time he did get he did really good in. I didn't catch the entire thing though.

Is it true Ron Paul is against gay marraige?

I saw the debate, and must say it start off pretty biased with most of the questions going to mainstream candidates throughout much of the entire debate. Not to mention, that weird question about the NY yankees going to Guiliani at the end. It just goes to show who spent the most money to bend the network in their favor.

Later on in the debate Ron Paul started getting more attention and you can tell by the mixed reaction of the crowd they had stacked the audience with other candidate's supporters booing just for the sake of booing even though Ron Paul stated facts and pretty much made all the other candidates look like flip-flopping fools. Oh, I enjoyed how they actually chose a question that mentioned the North American Union, and he was able to bring things to light and put to rest the doubts of it being only a conspiracy theory. PEOPLE ARE WAKING UP!!!

I also found it pretty funny how they like asking Ron Paul if he will think about switching to independent, just when his campaign is starting to take off. Everyone knows that independent spells doom for the campaign in our biased two-party system. It's like they think if they say it enough times it'll happen. Can we say, scared much?

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Originally Posted by Grod

Is it true Ron Paul is against gay marraige?

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There are a lot of things that I disagree with Ron Paul about.

However, he doesn't seem to be pure evil (our current administration), the ultimate slimy politician (the Clintons), a frigging scary fundamentalist (Romney), a power-hungry liar (Guliani), a dim-wit actor (Thompson), a huge hypocrite (Edwards), what's Obama...oh yea he has a Muslim name that rhymes with Osama, so he's unelectable, etc. etc.

I also found it pretty funny how they like asking Ron Paul if he will think about switching to independent, just when his campaign is starting to take off. Everyone knows that independent spells doom for the campaign in our biased two-party system. It's like they think if they say it enough times it'll happen. Can we say, scared much?

I think this is a strategic move in not commiting to an answer at this point. It's pretty logical; would you rather run a race against two oponents or one? If he would (by miracle, but you never know) win the Republican nomination, his only oponent is the Democratic candidate. If he runs as independent, he must run against both the Republican AND Democrat candidate. I like it, he comes off as a 'nice guy' but he's no idiot - he's as tactical as the others.

That idiot that asked him the question then said he was "dissapointed" with the answer is a fucking fool.

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Paul Wins Virginia Straw Poll

Ron Paul vanquished the competition in the annual Virginia GOP retreat straw poll by collecting 182 votes (38&#37. Despite having former senator George Allen and current Virginia Attorney General Bob McDonald speaking on his behalf, Fred Thompson managed only 112 votes (23%). While Mike Huckabee, who was represented by his wife, finished a distant third with 51 votes (11%).

Several long-time Republican leaders including conservative icon Morton Blackwell complemented the Paul campaign on their strong organization and mobilization efforts, according to Ron Paul National Field Director Dennis Fusaro, who spoke on Dr. Paul's behalf at the event. Fusaro went on to say that, while this reflects the organizational strength of the Paul campaign around the country, it is essential that Virginia Ron Paul Republicans replicate this turn-out on a county-by-county basis at next year's mass meetings. Fusaro went on to congratulation the grassroots for, once again, coming out to support Dr. Paul in an unprecedented manner.

Virginia GOP Retreat Straw Poll Results:

Ron Paul 182 (38%)

Fred Thompson 112 (23%)

Mike Huckabee 51 (11%)

Rudy Guiliani 45 (9%)

Mitt Romney 43 (9%)

John McCain 23 (5%)

Duncan Hunter 19 (4%)

Tom Tancredo 4 (<1%)

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One last post in before the www.teaparty07.com launches tomorrow. So far, there are already 31,278 pledges at 4:43 pm, with him already within 500K of his goal of $12 million.

$11.5 million raised so far. Hell yeah. Keep it coming.


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Notice how they put "it's not a scientific poll" in big bold letters when Ron Paul does well but rub other unscientific polls in his face if he doesn't win. Just check out how lame those live graphs are during the debate. Blitzer makes sure to bring up the graphs to Ron Paul even though most likely the 21 people voting consisted of a bunch of planted neo-cons. Notice how many times he inquires into his chances of running as third party candidate? Why do they continue to say that when his campaign is just starting up? It's ridiculous how hard mass-media is trying to sway votes and spread propagandized lies. CNN and pretty much all major TV news outlets are trash. That is why their ratings consistently fall and why they lose viewers everywhere. This is just another example. Also, why is the candidate with the LEAST amount of money raised pushed ahead as leader?

It's high time we took our country back. Get the popcorn and fireworks ready for tomorrow folks.

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