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      You're all missing my point.

      What business of yours is it what somebody else 'needs' or wants or chooses to believe?

      You ask why anybody would need religion if you don't. I ask why you would need life itself if I don't.

      Is that more clear?

      What I need or want or choose is not within yours or anybody else's purvue to decide or judge, just as your belief that there is no spiritual reality isn't any of my business. Your MAKING it your business makes it my business, and that only to the point where you concede the boundary between your volition and mine.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ExoByte View Post
      Bush himself has said he doesn't think Atheists should be considered citizens. Religion still plays a prominent role, even though it may not be as out stretched. Religions still receive tax exempt status and other benefits. It may not be where we're killing each other in the name of the lord or we may not be a fully religiously ran government, but religion still has its hand deep in the government.
      Quoting Bush ? Anyways, all I'm saying is that public functions won't suddenly grind to a halt if all bibles disappear one day. What influences people these days is the morals that religion conveys, but not the actual practises.

      Quote Originally Posted by pj View Post
      You're all missing my point.

      What business of yours is it what somebody else 'needs' or wants or chooses to believe?

      You ask why anybody would need religion if you don't. I ask why you would need life itself if I don't.

      Is that more clear?

      What I need or want or choose is not within yours or anybody else's purvue to decide or judge, just as your belief that there is no spiritual reality isn't any of my business. Your MAKING it your business makes it my business, and that only to the point where you concede the boundary between your volition and mine.
      I always understood that.

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