Thread: For the 9/11 conspiracists

He, like most people trying to shoot down the conspiracy arguments, ignores all the hard evidence and looks at the ridiculous arguments, such as the dollar bills. Yes, those arguments are rubbish, but they don't disprove the conspiracy. I don't see any counter arguments for the strong, indisputable evidence out there.

Creating crap like this does nothing but waste our time and make the people with real evidence very angry.

I just liked the article.

Who else feels the "Al Qaeda theory" has more evidence than the "George W. Bush 'n friends theory"?

For those who think George Bush/cronies did this, I think your claim to "hard proof" is too bold. Osama bin Laden saying "Hey, I did this!!" on camera is hard proof. "The towers shouldn't have fell", is not.

I'm half expecting an explaination that George Bush and Bin Laden are actually good friends, and that having Al Qaeda destroyed benefited Bin Laden in some way.

Bin Laden was on the CIA payroll for quite a while. He also received training from the CIA.

But Maddox is a foolish person. You can't take people like that seriously. Expecially when your educated about it.

His strongest argument was probably "the fact that Dylan, his friends, and family are alive" and it seems to make sence at first but thats really no proof at all because if the government has half a brain they would see that its not in thier interest to squelch the revealing of their conspiracy that way. If they killed him that would pretty much 100% confirm that yes he was right. And they already danced around enough evidence against them. And now not enough people care strongly enough to make a difference because too many people are already distracted by everything else going on in the middle east and the 9/11 incident was the excuse to go into iraq originally, right? So about all we can do now is be that much more skeptical of our government. And if the trend carries that will probably be enough.
And i thought the comic was funny but not in the way it was intended to be. I was more amused that the author did actually doubt that the government could hide the opinions of all those people that would have to be inside on this, because they did. All of the interviews with the hundreds of firefighters are classified along with a bunch of other stuff. And as long as there's no abundant hard evidence against them that people have easy access to and is credible, politians will continue doing what they are great at (and i dont mean drafting intelligent legislation). And then ontop of that, they are doing what the Romans did. Distract the masses from thier problems with gladiator matches. Except in this case its just an entire war costing us over one trillion dollars...

Originally Posted by b12

I decided to make a threat out of this since i knew that
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse....i?u=911_morons

Holy shit, that was the greatest.

Originally Posted by b12

I decided to make a threat out of this since i knew that my small post would get drowned out by all the other posts ten times larger than mine

I think Maddox makes very good points on how there is no conspiracy. It's not that long of a read, not to mention pretty entertaining. Check it out.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse....i?u=911_morons

My reply to this, the first time it was posted

Wolfe's two cents

Unlike others who debunk 9/11 conspiracy theories, or "cons" for short, I'm not going to bother with going through intricate point-by-point rebuttals, or pointing out the hundreds of factual inaccuracies and outright lies in this "documentary," because I don't need to.

This guy needs a course in critical thinking. Reading that was the biggest waste of time I have been subjected to in the last few months.

funny how maddox's only proof 911 wasn't an inside job is his need to call people names without providing facts and/or evidence.

If he's such a conspiracy nut, 911 being an inside job, makes perfect sense.

Would a rational, logical person actually believe that if the government were to perpetrate an event like 9/11 (which they did), then they would tell all branches of the government and all workers and FB(lIe) agents. Not to mention every cop and fire fighter?


I mean seriously, they call the conspiracy theorists morons.






How could our ever powerful Criminal... I mean, Central Intelligence Agency not see this coming? How could we not find out that a group of inexperienced "terrorists" were going to hijack a plane and fly them into the two tallest buildings in the US.


And why weren't the planes shot down, you think with 30 miles to the towers, and the plane being off course, something would be up.

Vegan. We have a bit of common sense. A bit of intelligence. The heritics call us 'conspiracists'. and 'crazy' because we arn't like them

Originally Posted by Vegan

And why weren't the planes shot down, you think with 30 miles to the towers, and the plane being off course, something would be up.

Apparently the airforce was having a drill, in which terrorists hijacked a plane. Nobody knew if it was going on for real

Originally Posted by Mystic7

Vegan. We have a bit of common sense. A bit of intelligence. The heritics call us 'conspiracists'. and 'crazy' because we arn't like them

"Your a fool. You do not even know what you are talking about. Your complete ignorance is perpetuated by your complete naivity. Unlike me, who knows every detail about the matter."

Hey, just responding how you would.

The fact is, you are not part of the matter, and no one here is. Thus, good luck trying to prove anything because you cannot provide anything that is not subject to criticism.

But hey, I am sure you are already preparing an insult or sarcastic reponse incoporating what I said, right?

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Originally Posted by Vegan

Would a rational, logical person actually believe that if the government were to perpetrate an event like 9/11 (which they did), then they would tell all branches of the government and all workers and FB(lIe) agents. Not to mention every cop and fire fighter?

I mean seriously, they call the conspiracy theorists morons.

How could our ever powerful Criminal... I mean, Central Intelligence Agency not see this coming? How could we not find out that a group of inexperienced "terrorists" were going to hijack a plane and fly them into the two tallest buildings in the US.

And why weren't the planes shot down, you think with 30 miles to the towers, and the plane being off course, something would be up.

So let's get this straight. A ton of people in the U.S. government can pull off the most outrageous and impressive mass murder conspiracy in the history of the world without any of the wrong people in any of the other branches of federal government finding out about it before or after it, yet there is no way a small group of Middle Eastern terrorists who are not in the government can do that for a little while before they attack?

I am sure you are already preparing an insult

For you O'nus. Yes

That use to be Universal Minds song. But you beat him to that one now. So he's left with thatLiquid tension

Originally Posted by Mystic7

For you O'nus. Yes

That has nothing to do with anything.

You need to make your trolling less obvious, Mystic.

You get back what you deserve. Do you know the origin of the three monkeys that see no evil? Why put it in your avatar? Like O'nus. Putting things on your profile that you don't understand. But it makes perfect sense because your not the one choosing them entirely are you?

Originally Posted by Mystic7

Like O'nus. Putting things on your profile that you don't understand. But it makes perfect sense because your not the one choosing them entirely are you?

Are you reffering to the Caduceus?

Originally Posted by Mystic7

You get back what you deserve. Do you know the origin of the three monkeys that see no evil? Why put it in your avatar? Like O'nus. Putting things on your profile that you don't understand. But it makes perfect sense because your not the one choosing them entirely are you?

Where did my avatar come into this? You're going to have to clear that up.

Originally Posted by Mystic7

But it makes perfect sense because your not the one choosing them entirely are you?

Oh now I'm interested.

Let me guess who's choosing them for me.
1.) The Bush Administration
2.) I'm being controlled by aliens
3.) The illumnati

Originally Posted by Mystic7

For you O'nus. Yes

That use to be Universal Minds song. But you beat him to that one now. So he's left with thatLiquid tension

Oh no, everybody get back! Mystic is posting irrelevant Youtube videos again. I don't know how to match the force of logic that comes with such bizarre behavior no matter how many Abba and cheesy 80's heavy metal videos I post. What will we ever do?

That was pathetic mystic7. Why do you delibarely dodge all attempts at resolution and then perpetuate conflict?

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Originally Posted by Universal Mind

So let's get this straight. A ton of people in the U.S. government can pull off the most outrageous and impressive mass murder conspiracy in the history of the world without any of the wrong people in any of the other branches of federal government finding out about it before or after it, yet there is no way a small group of Middle Eastern terrorists who are not in the government can do that for a little while before they attack?

Just the members of the PNAC, not a ton.