Thread: Evolution is a Fact - Not a Theory

@ Photosyphilis.

First let's examine if a macroevoltion could have even begun

This is from a book called Evolution from space.

They estimated the probability of forming a single enzyme or protein at random, in a rich ocean of amino acids, was no more than one in 10 to the 20th power.” Next, they calculated the likelihood of forming all of the 2000+ enzymes used in the life forms of earth. This probability was calculated at one in 10 to the 40,000th power. this has a likely hood of a tornado ripping apart a junk yard and creating a boeing 747


@Moonshine, Wing stubs to me means more body weight. More body weight would be a huge disadvantage Ie, slower,couldn't hide as easy.

They estimated the probability of forming a single enzyme or protein at random, in a rich ocean of amino acids, was no more than one in 10 to the 20th power.” Next, they calculated the likelihood of forming all of the 2000+ enzymes used in the life forms of earth. This probability was calculated at one in 10 to the 40,000th power. this has a likely hood of a tornado ripping apart a junk yard and creating a boeing 747

The analogy is completely flawed because Evolution does not start with nothing and try to go to the top. It uses small changes to 'home in' on something better. This is what many people do not seem to understand about evolution.

Here is a very good analogy for how evolution works:

Someone is trying to guess the code for a keypad. However each time they get a key right they are told. This would allow them to quickly home in on the answer.

And that's what happens. Relatively small chances in step by step process. It's like making changes to a computer, and if they don't work you revert to the last good configuration. You don't simply wipe it all and start from scratch.



Imagine a 6 digit code on a 10 digit panel. There are 1 million combinations, and it would take up to 1 million guesses by blind chance.

With the 'evolution' method however, you could guess the entire thing in at most 60 attempts (10 max per digit).

You need to fully understand this analogy. It is essential to understanding the probabilities of evolution, and why so many religious people get it completely wrong.

It is possible for complex proteins to form in a single mutation but anyone rational would agree that this is so unlikely that we can simply say it doesn't happen. No supporter of evolution has ever claimed this has happened, and in all chances, it never will; it's that improbable.

Originally Posted by Riot Maker

@Moonshine, Wing stubs to me means more body weight. More body weight would be a huge disadvantage Ie, slower,couldn't hide as easy.

This notion of "wing stubs" is where you're tripping up. Are you visualizing some kind of two-limbed animal gradually developing two new limbs? Like most of us, winged creatures developed from four-limbed creatures--wings are specialized arms, which are specialized legs, which are specialized fins, and on and on and on. Barring a serious accident, wing stubs never come into it.

Originally Posted by Riot Maker

Wing stubs to me means more body weight. More body weight would be a huge disadvantage Ie, slower,couldn't hide as easy.

Don't feel bad, lots of people don't understand complex things.