Thread: Planet X Approaching 2012.

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2...ul_planetx.htm

Ummmm yes it's an article about the possible existence of another planet or gravitational body, which would explain some eccentricities in the orbits of the planets in our solar system.

Now you need to link me to a credible source of informations which explains how this means that we are all going to die.

Or whatever the hell it was, I don't really care.

Oh, and the bet's off then? That's a shame. You'd have had a lot to gain from it if this were true. Guess you don't actually believe that. Maybe you could have regained some of the money you wasted on the ebook that your second link was trying to sell me.

Look, like I said, we've had a perfectly normal solar system for billions of years. The chances that it'll somehow change in your lifetime are astronomical.

His L-like reasoning and quick intellect is uncanny.

...oh, wait...

I love this thread lol.

Now tell me how is this government article a book?

Well the whole website seemed to want me to buy this steaming pile of shit:

http://yowusa.com/store/pxf/1.shtml

How about you find a website with the same information, but which isn't trying to sell me a book about how I can survive the cataclismic event which only seems to be mentioned on said website.

Listen your betting is for children who want attetion. I dont need your llame money. I care about humanity, so keep your money in your pockets will yea?

Well perhaps you could donate the $10,000 to humanitarian causes?

Originally Posted by Xei

Well the whole website seemed to want me to buy this steaming pile of shit:

http://yowusa.com/store/pxf/1.shtml

How about you find a website with the same information, but which isn't trying to sell me a book about how I can survive the cataclismic event which only seems to be mentioned on said website.

Well perhaps you could donate the $10,000 to humanitarian causes?

Let me make you something clear, when someone provides evidence, learn to read/watch it. Before making your own assumptions. If you dont have time for that, please dont post useless spamm. By saying that, you had time replying to the spamm posts, which were pretty much 1-2 hrs. You could have spend that time and study what i brought you (20 min material) . Instead of arguing on the topic without having proper knowledge of it.

If you like doing that in other thread's than you need a real life therapy.
I gave you proper links which you requested. You havent even looked at them, thus wasting my time, and others. IF thats your purpose of replying without having the proper knowledge of it, than your in the wrong place.

I'm not surprised that you have "Teens" behind your back, spamming as well as you do. Please leave my thread alone. And post some useful stuff, none related to betting and money.

For the others, please dont waste your time arguing with me on this topic. Just call your Nasa Headquarters and they will give you the proper answer.
It is not my problem if you cannot read the links i posted. Instead of spamming and counting up your forum counts.

The hilarious part of it , is none of the posters besides few of them such as jeff, took a look at the material.

Even if Planet X is going to collide with Earth, do we have that much to worry about? I've seen this happen countless times, big hot shot new guy on the block tries to take over only to get his ass kicked by the real deal.

I mean just look at our history, we've invented Kung-Fu, Judo, Taekwon-Do, Samurai swords, the 9mm pistol. Our planet has been populated by mongol hordes, medieval knights; we've seen the rise of nations like the Roman Empire and the Soviet Union. Can any planet really even attempt to claim that they are as badass as we are?

No, of course not, Earth is the shit. Fear us Planet X, and GTFO of our orbit.

I reckon if Planet X does come and try and push us about, we send Spart up there with a katana and a 9mm.
Nothing could stop a pilot that knows kung-fu, judo AND taekwon-do.

well this is just silly for a number of reasons.

1. the definition of a planet:

A planet is a body that orbits the sun(or a star) that is large enough for its own gravity to make it roughly round, and has cleared its orbit of smaller objects.

If Planet x passes and has done before as stated between Mars and Jupiter there would be no asteroid belt. Given it is suposedly the size of jupiter it would swollow the asteroid belt.

2. A planet of this size would drastically alter the orbit of the planets of the solar system and infact would most liley either throw planet off their orbit into space or cause planetary collisions

3. surely 2 stars orbiting so close would eventually spiral into each other?

4. I note that the so called pictures of planet X and all the so called facts about it have no credible sources.

this theory is just silly

EDIT: I may be wrong here but I thought the orbital paths of neptune and uranus were thought to be wrong because of errors in the original calculations. Didnt this not get fixed in the 1980s or something?

surely 2 stars orbiting so close would eventually spiral into each other?

Most of the stars in the universe are binary systems, apparently... but there you go.

Originally Posted by mark

well this is just silly for a number of reasons.

1. the definition of a planet:

A planet is a body that orbits the sun(or a star) that is large enough for its own gravity to make it roughly round, and has cleared its orbit of smaller objects.

If Planet x passes and has done before as stated between Mars and Jupiter there would be no asteroid belt. Given it is suposedly the size of jupiter it would swollow the asteroid belt.

2. A planet of this size would drastically alter the orbit of the planets of the solar system and infact would most liley either throw planet off their orbit into space or cause planetary collisions

3. surely 2 stars orbiting so close would eventually spiral into each other?

4. I note that the so called pictures of planet X and all the so called facts about it have no credible sources.

this theory is just silly

EDIT: I may be wrong here but I thought the orbital paths of neptune and uranus were thought to be wrong because of errors in the original calculations. Didnt this not get fixed in the 1980s or something?

I agree with mark.

Originally Posted by Siиdяed

I reckon if Planet X does come and try and push us about, we send Spart up there with a katana and a 9mm.
Nothing could stop a pilot that knows kung-fu, judo AND taekwon-do.

I can't see why Planet X would want to come to Earth, that's where Tom Cruise lives.

Originally Posted by Xei

Ummmm yes it's an article about the possible existence of another planet or gravitational body, which would explain some eccentricities in the orbits of the planets in our solar system.

Now you need to link me to a credible source of informations which explains how this means that we are all going to die.

Or whatever the hell it was, I don't really care.

Oh, and the bet's off then? That's a shame. You'd have had a lot to gain from it if this were true. Guess you don't actually believe that. Maybe you could have regained some of the money you wasted on the ebook that your second link was trying to sell me.

Look, like I said, we've had a perfectly normal solar system for billions of years. The chances that it'll somehow change in your lifetime are astronomical.

Listen your betting is for children who want attetion. I dont need your llame money. I care about humanity, so keep your money in your pockets will yea?

Now tell me how is this government article a book?
http://yowusa.com/planetx/2006/planetx-2006-04a/1.shtml

Yowusa.com, 26-April-2006
Jacco van der Worp
Foreword by Marshall Masters

America is now spending huge sums to deploy the massive The South Pole Telescope (SPT) in Antarctica. The final installation will be the size of a mini-mall and will require a massive C-130 airlift effort to transport pre-assembled modules and a large staff to the most desolate, inhospitable and inaccessible region of the world. Why? Because Planet X / Nibiru was first sighted in 1983 and this discovery spurred the USA to build the SPT — humanity's new Planet X tracker.

Amongst independent researchers like us at YOWUSA.COM and the equally committed researchers with whom we share data, the 1983 IRAS observation of Planet X / Nibiru has always been a hot topic. On a private level, we often discuss how the NASA's IRAS spacecraft first captured infrared images of it back in 1983 with the same lament. Given the lack of corroboration, how can you publish a story that can easily be shot down as a rumor? That was then.

Now we have the corroboration we've lacked for years, The South Pole Telescope (SPT). Far more powerful capable and survivable than the 1983 IRAS spacecraft and Hubble Space Telescope put together, this manned observatory will soon begin tracking Planet X / Nibiru from the pristine skies of Antarctica.

Why is America spending a massive fortune to transport this massive facility with massive C-130 airlift to the most desolate, inhospitable and inaccessible region of the world to track this massive inbound? Because this is where astronomers will find their ultimate Kodak moment and this is good news. Their resulting multi-spectrum observations will translate into life-saving data.

Please stop using excuses which have no value . Your targeting me as if i'm saying its the end of the world. How about you drop that idea and get your head working straight?

Let people discuss the potential danger coming from it.

Originally Posted by L

Listen your betting is for children who want attetion. I dont need your llame money. I care about humanity, so keep your money in your pockets will yea?

Now tell me how is this government article a book?
http://yowusa.com/planetx/2006/planetx-2006-04a/1.shtml



Please stop using excuses which have no value . Your targeting me as if i'm saying its the end of the world. How about you drop that idea and get your head working straight?

Let people discuss the potential danger coming from it.

L, you're going to have to defend yourself knowledge/sources/theories better, because so far the planet x thread is getting ripped to shreds. It's true that the ancient sumerians (who happened to be an advanced civilization who it's estimated to have lived 6,000 years ago) were very knowledgeable about our galaxy, our planets etc... (and they also knew our planets were spherical, and they also knew they revolved around the sun, this is evident in their depictions.) In their depictions of our solar system they drew 10 planets. See picture below...



Do I believe Planet X will come in 2012 and crash into Earth? I have not seen any evidence to suggest this. Do I believe there is a Planet X/Nibiru? Sure, why not.

No, not really. When people post such things I think it is a combination of being bored, having the thirst for a savior to drop out of the sky and change their dreary lives somehow. Not only that, but an attempt to create a sense of community out of supposed 'revelation' that has been rehashed and rehashed by various doomsayers and doomscholars for god knows how long.

We have a lot more to worry about than Edgar Cayce's and Michael Tsarion's predictions about the rapture and the upheavals of 2012. If it happens so be it, but the real prophesies are those that lie in our own creation. Chemical, biological, and nuclear. I think that such people that throw the red klaxon around with such ease are actually hoping and praying for an initiation of such an event because modern culture has disenfranchised and consumed their individuality to the point where they long for its self-destruction.

Believe me, I would know. I am a puppet that can see his own strings.

I feel like a puppet too. But I'm gonna try to cut those strings...and run away.

We are in fact the malevolent puppeteers of our own lives whether we believe it or not. I have been tending to think lately that I am my own worst enemy in that regard. Self-stereotyping, locking ourselves into predetermined patterns of behavior, and conforming to the status quo as often as possible are representations of this evil I bear witness to.

One wonders whether it is genetics or crowd psychology that plays a larger role in this; I would like to think it's the latter.

OK, I'm going on a tangent, I have to get my feet back on track: From a cosmic perspective, the whole shebang seems highly unlikely. I have two scenarios in my head, one that happens so fast that we wont even be anywhere remotely conscious of it until it does happen, and two that we are so young as a species, that only likely a dramatic event like this will only happen well after we are gone.

However, who knows about humankind, this itself is a huge experiment on a planetary scale.

I tend to think that around this point of time is where limiting factors will be imposed on us by the planet. If we let our intellect to override our animalistic nature then it is a possibility we can save the status quo. This is a pipe dream; the status quo necessarily lends to the planet's destruction.

We need to override our instincts, but what we are doing to our planet (and ourselves) is unacceptable. We need to change the way we look at ourselves and our place in the world, and that is (probably) something that doesn't happen overnight. If the 'spiritual (r)evolution' of 2012 turns out to be BS, then I'll be able to tell what started it in the first place. It is our will to change. while some, or most, individuals want to 'stick to the program' and just live 'ordinary lives' like everybody else; some people like me desire change. I think that some people got so desperate (changing an entire race takes ages) that they came up with a date (in this case a date from an ancient civilisation) and said that the 'great change' will happen then.

I prefer to believe this spiritual evolution though, because in this world; anything may happen. And like what Troubadour said, we are a relatively young species. What makes us thing we know everything?

At the moment I am preparing myself for 3 possible scenarios:
Near future: Our (and especially my) destruction (global warming, war, ..)
2012: Something beneficial happens for mankind
2012: Nothing happens.

The significance of Planet X is that it opposes several questions as well several answers towards our past. This thread was created for us to conclude, its existence because it can be seen in the sky (East coast). It might as well be fake, but i wouldn't be so sure especially when our past planets discoveries were concluded as fake until they were spotted. People tend to see the object before believing, this is the biggest mistake a human could do. Our Visual sense is far from perfect. And filters mostly 8x%+

The video i posted in this thread, has been reviewed in my college as part of the program. Not even a single teacher could point out thats its "Fake", because they have the lack of knowledge about it. Nasa revealed its existence which is 3-4 times the mass of earth. We can also conclude that it has planets orbiting it. We dont loose anything by doing so.
The links i provided were for Xei, due to his lazy attitude of reading and listening, i pointed out those links. Now, debating with him on something he hasnt even looked at makes me just close this thread. Its disrespectful and arrogant towards a community member.

I took my time, and posted the links, take your time and review them before jumping on me like a rabbit. If you dont know, just call NASA headquarters. You pay them your tax money, let them inform you about it. If you dont believe the people around internet. Than get your ass up and research it your self.

My point view of this upcoming event, is none. I went trough allot of garbage and experiences. In this world, anything is possible for each of us. Those who keep a open mind, will eventually experience the unexperienced.

Why don't you guys, go and try to proove me wrong? give me some valuable links, so i could review them. Aren't we a community who is supposed to help each other? if thats so, i don't see it happening.

The conclusion i made was made purposely for you to prove me wrong. As you see, the only thing i see in this thread, is some activity that goes against my factor. Without you backing it up.

Xei.: If your so smart, mind telling me why haven't you linked me to a source that has accurate information towards the fakeness of planet x?
-If so, than link me to it. If your lazy to do that, than why the heck do you post here, is it because of the posts counts?

I took my time and gave you the links, and once again you have declined its Source as fake. I have nothing else to say towards you.

Go and prove me wrong.

Originally Posted by L

Go and prove me wrong.

Originally Posted by L

...it can be seen in the sky (East coast).

Originally Posted by L

Nasa revealed its existence which is 3-4 times the mass of earth

...beyond 7 billion miles from the sun."

This in itself is proof.

An object only 3-4 (or even 4-8, according to the OP) times the mass of earth as far away as you claim being visible to the naked eye? Worse, during daylight according to those photos!

Let's put this in perspective, shall we?

Jupiter's Volume is 1321 that of Earth's, even though it is only about 318 times the mass of Earth. The low mass is due to its being mostly or entirely made out of gasses. The closest Jupiter gets to Earth is about 390 million miles. At such times, you can actually see it with your naked eye, though not with the sun glaring.

Even if planet X were composed of light gasses and with a similar density to Jupiter, it would be about 40 times smaller even at your largest estimate of 8 Earth Masses. At 7 billion miles from the sun, it would be about 18 times further away, making it about one 720th the apparent size of Jupiter at its closest Earth approach. It would take a damn powerful telescope to pick this up optically.

Can we move on yet?

Ehm...Actually you are supposed to prove us wrong, not the other way around. This is just you choosing the easy way out, without having to show us evidence.

Originally Posted by L

The significance of Planet X is that it opposes several questions as well several answers towards our past. This thread was created for us to conclude, its existence because it can be seen in the sky (East coast). It might as well be fake, but i wouldn't be so sure especially when our past planets discoveries were concluded as fake until they were spotted. People tend to see the object before believing, this is the biggest mistake a human could do. Our Visual sense is far from perfect. And filters mostly 8x%+

The video i posted in this thread, has been reviewed in my college as part of the program. Not even a single teacher could point out thats its "Fake", because they have the lack of knowledge about it. Nasa revealed its existence which is 3-4 times the mass of earth. We can also conclude that it has planets orbiting it. We dont loose anything by doing so.
The links i provided were for Xei, due to his lazy attitude of reading and listening, i pointed out those links. Now, debating with him on something he hasnt even looked at makes me just close this thread. Its disrespectful and arrogant towards a community member.

I took my time, and posted the links, take your time and review them before jumping on me like a rabbit. If you dont know, just call NASA headquarters. You pay them your tax money, let them inform you about it. If you dont believe the people around internet. Than get your ass up and research it your self.

My point view of this upcoming event, is none. I went trough allot of garbage and experiences. In this world, anything is possible for each of us. Those who keep a open mind, will eventually experience the unexperienced.

Why don't you guys, go and try to proove me wrong? give me some valuable links, so i could review them. Aren't we a community who is supposed to help each other? if thats so, i don't see it happening.

The conclusion i made was made purposely for you to prove me wrong. As you see, the only thing i see in this thread, is some activity that goes against my factor. Without you backing it up.

Xei.: If your so smart, mind telling me why haven't you linked me to a source that has accurate information towards the fakeness of planet x?
-If so, than link me to it. If your lazy to do that, than why the heck do you post here, is it because of the posts counts?

I took my time and gave you the links, and once again you have declined its Source as fake. I have nothing else to say towards you.

Go and prove me wrong.

God I love this thread