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      I am shocked about this whole matter. I discovered it on my own a few weeks ago and have been drinking only spring water since, and just today purchased fluoride free toothpaste. I don't drink soda so I'm not worried about that. My hair products are SLS and paraben free as well, thanks to my friend who makes fantastic bath & body products.

      GERMANS & RUSSIANS USED FLUORIDE TO MAKE PRISONERS 'STUPID & DOCILE

       
       
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      "To whom it may concern: I, Oliver Kenneth Goff, was a member of the Communist Party and the Young Communist League from May 2, 1936 to October 9, 1939. During this period of time, I operated under the alias of John Keats and the number 18-B-2. My testimony before the Government is incorporated in Volume 9 of the Un-American Activities Report for the year 1939.
      "While a member of the Communist Party, I attended Communist underground training schools outside the City of New York in the Bues Hall and 113 East Wells Street, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. The East Wells Street School operated under the name of the Eugene Debs School. Here, under the tutoring of Eugene Dennis, M. Sparks, Morris Chyilds, Jack Kling and others, we were schooled in the art of revolutionary overthrow of the established Government.
      "We discussed quite thoroughly the fluoridation of water supplies and how we were using it in Russia as a tranquilizer in the prison camps. The leaders of our school felt that if it could be induced into the American water supply, it would bring about a spirit of lethargy in the nation; where it would keep the general public docile during a steady encroachment of Communism. We also discussed the fact that keeping a store of deadly fluoride near the water reservoir would be advantageous during the time of the revolution, as it would give us opportunity to dump this poison into the water supply and either kill off the populace or threaten them with liquidation, so that they would surrender to obtain fresh water.
      "We discussed in these schools, the complete art of revolution: the seizure of the main utilities, such as light, power, gas and water, but it was felt by the leadership that if a program of fluoridating the water could be carried out in the nation, it would go a long way toward the advancement of the revolution." Oliver Kenneth Goff, 1957
      Matrix III - Volume Two - Use of Sodium Fluoride for Population Behavior Control
      "It is a matter of record that sodium fluoride has been used for behavior control of populations. In an "Address in reply to the Governor's Speech to Parliament," [Victorian Hanstard, August 12, 1987, Nexus, Aug/Sept 1995], Mr. Harley Rivers Dickinson, Liberal Party Member of the Victorian Parliament for South Barwon, Australia, made a statement on the historical use of fluorides for behavior control.
      "Mr. Dickinson reveals that, "At the end of the Second World War, the United States Government sent Charles Elliot Perkins, a research worker in chemistry, biochemistry, physiology and pathology, to take charge of the vast Farven chemical plants in Germany. While there, he was told by German chemists of a scheme which had been worked out by them during the war and adopted by the German General Staff. This scheme was to control the population in any given area through mass medication of drinking water. In this scheme, sodium fluoride will in time reduce an individual's power to resist domination by slowly poisoning and narcotising a certain area of the brain, and will thus make him submissive to the will of those who wish to govern him. Both the Germans and the Russians added fluoride to the drinking water of prisoners of war to make them stupid and docile."
      "According to Chemical Engineering News in 1988, each year in the United States, 80,000 tons of hydrofluosilicic acid, 60,000 tons of sodium silicofluoride and 3,000 tons of sodium fluorides are put into public water supplies (Chemical Engineering News, Vol 66, August 1, 1988, pg. 39). In view of all known research, it would be safe and accurate to rephrase the previous sentence and say that each year the United States Government allows 143,000 tons of fluoride products to be added to public water supplies in order to numb, disempower, and render docile a large percentage of the population. Present estimates in 1995 run about 200,000 tons annually. Now, why on earth would any oligarchic group (a small group) want to do this to tens of millions of people, deliberately and knowingly?
      "All of these fluoride chemicals are byproducts of the aluminum and chemical fertilization industries that are considered to be hazardous wastes by the EPA, says the scientific assessment of the health risks of fluorides in 1985 "omits 90% of the literature which suggests fluoride is a mutagen - causes cellular and genetic mutation." (Water Fluoridation: A Case of Truth Decay). Several scientists in the United States and other countries have done research or written reports questioning the benefits of water fluoridation or suggesting health risks, were discouraged by their employers from actually publishing their findings."
      Anyone who questions the use of fluoride in the drinking water is labeled a nut case. Fluoride helps prevent tooth decay!
      I have been drinking bottled water for 30 years. In 1991, I woke up and besides researching the "Federal" Reserve, the IRS, the UN and other one world government mechanisms, I also began looking at the fluoride issue. In 1993, I had all the metal fillings removed from my teeth and my daughter's. These metal fillings were replaced with gold; a very expensive undertaking. We also stopped using any products with fluoride, i.e. toothpaste, mouthwash and any application from our dentist. The difference in our dental health changed dramatically.
      My mother, her brother and my grandparents (from Sicily) never used toothpaste in their lifetime, they used baking soda. Same as my father's side of the family who came over from Munich. Both sets of grandparents died with all their teeth and never had gum disease. My mom and my uncle both have their own teeth, no bridges, no root canals, no gum disease. To this day, they use baking soda. They live in areas where the water has never been fluoridated. My four brothers and sisters have all had gum disease to some degree and huge problems with their teeth. They all use products with fluoride, all have metal fillings and two of them still drink tap water. I find these differences interesting.
      Some may think it's just a bunch of conspiracy fodder, but having read thousands of pages from hundreds of documents, both historical and from research, there's no doubt in my mind that fluoride is deadly and explains much about why Americans are so apathetic and lethargic about the very real dangers crushing our Republic. The American people simply have no will to resist and you can see it all across this country. Fluoride was introduced into the drinking water in this country around 1954. Think about it.
      Add into the mix the millions of gallons of diet soda pop consumed by Americans every day, ingesting deadly aspartame, also contained in more than 5,000 food products being eaten everyday, along with Splenda to "sweeten" and what you have is a population loading their bodies with deadly poisons. See the video 'Sweet Misery'
      While I haven't drank more than a half dozen cans of soda in my entire life, I did use toothpaste and mouthwash which contains fluoride until 1993 when I made major changes. Everyday I thank God for my good health, but I also have worked very hard at staying healthy and keeping my weight within seven pounds from the day I graduated from high school. It's not easy, but it all boils down to will power, self control and a desire not to be a burden to myself or my family in my later years.
      Education is everything. Research means giving up your fun times to thoroughly explore an issue. I have taken the time to scan several documents which contain thoroughly researched documentation and data on fluoride. Dentists all across this country will tell you that fluoride is good for your teeth and gums. City fathers will continue to tell you fluoridating the drinking water is good for you. Most of them refuse to even look at all the scientific research that's available. Thousands of cities across this country fluoridate their water. Conversely, hundreds of of cities in the U.S. refuse to fluoridate their water and dozens of countries refuse to poison their citizenry by fluoridating their water supply.
      For the sake of your health and your family, I urge you to take the time to read all this important, fully documented research. You will see the major players and recognize names and companies (like Alcoa) who have been involved in this fluoride scam for decades. Americans deserve the truth and they deserve accurate information so they can make informed choices. Also, read the book The Fluoride Deception.
      Click here to my Reading Room and you will see the section on fluoride. Read on-line or print out the 73 pages and share it with others. Friendly advice: keep your body free of toxic poisons - no matter how "good" you think it tastes. In my humble opinion, if the FDA says it's okay, that's the product to keep out of your body. Go natural!
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      Fluoride, added to the water supply of many cities and counties and sold by WalMart in its nursery water, has a tendency to accumulate not only in developing teeth causing discoloration, and in bones making them brittle. The mineral is associated with cancer and it also accumulates in the pineal gland, an important hormone control center, where it wreaks considerable havoc. Paul Connett of Fluoride Action Network comments on Jennifer Luke's research which was part of her PhD thesis and had just been published in Caries Research under the title: Fluoride Deposition in the Aged Human Pineal Gland.
      Fluoride is a poison, yet we add it to our water and toothpaste and even call it a supplement, although it has no nutritional value. Its medicinal value - the prevention of tooth decay - is the official explanation for adding the toxic mineral to the water supply. But that value is far outweighed by its toxic side effects - amply documented by Paul Connett in his Statement of Concern.
      Recent European Union legislation on food supplements lists fluoride as an essential element to offer for supplementation. This is somewhat ironic when contrasted with the European legislators' feigned concern over the putative toxicity of vitamins and their efforts to limit dosages of these vital nutrients in order to "protect public health".
      We also use fluoride in many household items, such as non-stick frying pans, high-tech water repellent fabrics and others. Recently, at least some timid attempts to start assessing the disease burden caused by fluoride are under way. The Journal of Water Health carries an article on this research. Meanwhile in the US, the FDA has decided that fluoride should be allowed in bottled water, perhaps in deference to WalMart's offerings.
      The use of fluoride for "health" reasons is one of the great insanities of our times. Could it be just by chance that the Germans and Russians both used fluoride to make prisoners stupid and docile or that the US government faced legal action over the toxic effects in the environment of this nuclear waste by-product?
      Perhaps the push for 'enriching' our water and our foods with fluoride has some ulterior motive that has little to do with health. Be that as it may, the campaign for fluoridation is stil in full swing and health authorities are pushing the poison as if their monthly paychecks depended on it.
      Jennifer Luke's PhD thesis on fluoride and its accumulation in the pineal gland - Paul Connett says that research might just be the scientific straw that breaks the camel's back:
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      Fluoride & the Pineal Gland: Study Published in Caries Research
      The wheels of science grind very slowly. Finally, the first half of the work that was the subject of Jennifer Luke's Ph.D. thesis; presentation in Bellingham, Washington (ISFR conference) in 1998 and a videotaped interview I had with her (see www.fluoridealert.org/videos.htm), has been published in Caries Research.
      In my view this work is of enormous importance and could be (or should be) the scientific straw that breaks the camel's back of fluoridation.
      When Luke found out that the pineal gland - a little gland in the center of the brain, responsible for a very large range of regulating activities (it produces serotonin and melatonin) - was also a calcifying tissue, like the teeth and the bones, she hypothesized it would concentrate fluoride to very high levels. The gland is not protected by the blood brain barrier and has a very high perfusion rate of blood, second only to the kidney.
      Luke had 11 cadavers analyzed in the UK. As she predicted she found astronomically high levels of fluoride in the calcium hydroxy apatite crystals produced by the gland. The average was 9000 ppm and went as high as 21,000 in one case. These levels are at, or higher, than fluoride levels in the bones of people suffering from skeletal fluorosis. It is these findings which have just been published.
      It is the ramifications of these findings which have yet to be published. In the second half of her work she treated animals (Mongolian gerbils) with fluoride at a crack pineal gland research unit at the University of Surrey, UK (so there is no question about the quality of this work). She found that melatonin production (as measured by the concentration of a melatonin metabolite in the urine) was lower in the animals treated with high fluoride levels compared with those treated with low levels.
      Luke hypothesizes that one of the four enzymes needed to convert the amino acid tryptophan (from the diet) into melatonin is being inhibited by fluoride. It could be one of the two enzymes which convert tryptophan to serotonin or one of the two which convert serotonin to melatonin.
      Significance? Huge. Melatonin is reponsible for regulating all kinds of activities and there is a vast amount of work investigating its possible roles in aging, cancer and many other life processes. The one activity that Luke is particularly interested in is the onset of puberty. The highest levels of melatonin ( produced only at night) is generated in young children. It is thought that it is the fall of these melatonin levels which acts like a biological clock and triggers the onset of puberty. In her gerbil study she found that the high fluoride treated animals were reaching puberty earlier than the low fluoride ones.
      We know from recent studies - and considerable press coverage - that young girls are reaching puberty earlier and earlier in the US. Luke is not saying that fluoride (or fluoridation) is the cause but her work waves a very worrying red flag. Fluoride's role in earlier puberty needs more thorough investigation. Of an interesting historical note, in the Newburgh versus Kingston fluoridation trial (1945-1955), it was found that the girls in fluoridated Newburgh were reaching menstruation, on average, five months earlier than the girls in unfluoridated Kingston, but the result was not thought to be significant at the time (Schlessinger et al, 1956).
      When one considers the seriousness of a possible interference by fluoride on a growing child's pineal gland (and for that matter, elderly pineal glands) it underlines the recklessness of fluoridation. The precautionary principle would say, as would basic common sense, that you don't take these kind of risks with our children for a benefit which, at best, amounts to 0.6 tooth surfaces out of 128 tooth surfaces in a child's mouth (Brunelle and Carlos, 1990, Table 6).
      I have a copy of Luke's Ph.D. thesis and would be willing to share it with those who have a serious scientific interest in this issue. The other references cited above can be found in my Statement of Concern which is published on the FAN webpage: http://www.fluoridealert.org/fluoride-statement.htm
      Paul Connett
      Considering the importance of the Pineal Gland...I am trying to eliminate as much fluoride from my diet as humanly possible.

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      wow nina thanks for that!

      I need to get rid of my colgate toothpaste...

      Does bottled water have fluoride?

      I drink nothing but bottled water, beer, and wine

      I thankfully don't think I have metal fillings...

      I knew it all along that this whole 1 world government thing was true, they dumbed down the population with fluoride and flooded the streets with illegal drugs and entertained them with TV.

      People need to wake up!
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      Only idiots drink bottled watter, the same people who don't get their children MMR vaccine because they think it gives people autism. Anyway, most bottled water is just tap water in a bottle, check to see if the bottled has municipal source on it.

      I remeber the Penn and Teller episode that debunked most of the myths of bottled water, like it being more healthy. Its kind of like the organic thing, which is rubbish.

      been drinking only spring water since,
      Spring water, you mean tap water in a bottle. Seriously, what is the name of the spring water you drink? and what company makes it?

      I bet it just tap water in a bottle.

      Does bottled water have fluoride?
      What is the name of the bottle water you drink? and what company?

      I knew it all along that this whole 1 world government thing was true, they dumbed down the population with fluoride and flooded the streets with illegal drugs and entertained them with TV.
      I guess they got to you first. However, being dumb is not bad, they got you drinking bottled water.

      People need to wake up!
      People need to stop acting paranoid.
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      wendy, been drinking fluoride?
      I would rather die on my feet then to live on my knees.

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      I thought it said Floridation... I thought it was about old people

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      Quote Originally Posted by wendylove View Post
      I guess they got to you first. However, being dumb is not bad, they got you drinking bottled water.


      People need to stop acting paranoid.
      Haha.
      While you went a bit over-board there, that was pretty funny.
      I'm really disappointed people are stupid enough to keep this thread running.

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      been a long time since you were at prisonplanet solskye
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      Quote Originally Posted by wendylove View Post
      Only idiots drink bottled watter, the same people who don't get their children MMR vaccine because they think it gives people autism. Anyway, most bottled water is just tap water in a bottle, check to see if the bottled has municipal source on it.

      I remeber the Penn and Teller episode that debunked most of the myths of bottled water, like it being more healthy. Its kind of like the organic thing, which is rubbish.


      Spring water, you mean tap water in a bottle. Seriously, what is the name of the spring water you drink? and what company makes it?

      I bet it just tap water in a bottle.


      What is the name of the bottle water you drink? and what company?


      I guess they got to you first. However, being dumb is not bad, they got you drinking bottled water.


      People need to stop acting paranoid.
      Thanks for the usual sarcasm WL.

      But even if most bottled water is just filtered tap water, at least its filtered, which usually means it has all of the impurities in tap water that they make the home water filtration systems found in every store for.

      The best option is finding somewhere that sells reverse osmosis filtered water and bringing your own glass jugs, or getting a reverse osmosis filter.

      http://www.holisticmed.com/fluoride/toxic.html

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      The best option is finding somewhere that sells reverse osmosis filtered water and bringing your own glass jugs, or getting a reverse osmosis filter.
      The best option is to shut up a drink tap water. Then the new world order will kick in, and you will all be dumb, just because some strange Government plan to dumb down the population is going on. Which, is the most brillent plan ever, first bribe most sane scientist in the revelant field and the health minister to push flouridation, in most parts of the world. When everyone is stupid, the new world order will start.

      They said 9/11 was a brilliant government plan, they haven't seen anything yet, since water is colourless.

      I was going to start buying bottled water, then I realized only idiots pay 1 pound a bottle for something that is free.
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      Quote Originally Posted by adam has a dream View Post
      Haha.
      While you went a bit over-board there, that was pretty funny.
      I'm really disappointed people are stupid enough to keep this thread running.
      Wendylove is a troll. Everyone knows it. And the only stupid one I see here...is YOU. The fact that you both agree only affirms this.

      And I drink Ice Mountain Natural Spring Water. It's not just bottled water. I've been to their website. I've checked out everything in their water. So get a clue before trying to tell me I'm just drinking filtered tap water.

      You people are really making yourselves look like asses lol. Have fun having your minds controlled!!

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      You people are really making yourselves look like asses lol. Have fun having your minds controlled!!
      They give out tablets for paranoia.
      So get a clue before trying to tell me I'm just drinking filtered tap water.
      Well, what ever saves your brain from the Government and their plan to dumb down the masses.
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      does the planet Earth reproduce, well no unless you count the moon.

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      So I told my mother about the Flourine in a cup of water being the same as in some tooth paste and how it says contact poison control right after ingesting. All she says is "oh" and talks to me about something else. I asked her if she realized how disturbing this was. She lightly and half heartedly says "Yes very disturbing" and then talks to me about where she put her ring. I'm like WTF???? If most people are like she is, were destined to be poisoned to death.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Hercuflea View Post
      been a long time since you were at prisonplanet solskye
      I was only there to perform a social experiment by seeing how receptive the people there were to my thoughts. And, in response I was met with such blind paranoia and angry fervor. Also, as you may have noticed, I was banned by one of the mods just for speaking my mind about the level of their blind paranoia, and blind belief of Alex Jones' paranoid spew. Listening to Alex Jones is just a form of paranoid idol worship. At that time, I was actually being civil and not name-calling like over half the regulars on there were doing to me. One of them even thought I was 34th degree Illuminati... or a MKULTRA mind-controlled psy-op puppet of the government... LOL! WTF? It just goes to show where all the paranoia and fear stem from. One's self and no where else. As I said here and on Prison Planet... We pull our own strings and play into our own hands.

      The hypocrites so passionately speak of and fear TPTB limiting their free speech, but then, they turn around and do the exact same thing they claim to hate. Irony at it's finest.

      I don't know the actual truth behind this fluoride thing. However, I do know there are enough articles floating around on both sides of the coin to warrant being more than just a little weary or cautious about it. At the very least, one should healthily err on the side of caution enough to avoid purposefully ingesting it whenever possible.
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      couldn't agree more solskye. That's why I always read both the conspiray theory and the skeptics. The more i read the less paranoid i become!!!
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      Quote Originally Posted by Aquanina View Post
      Wendylove is a troll. Everyone knows it. And the only stupid one I see here...is YOU. The fact that you both agree only affirms this.

      And I drink Ice Mountain Natural Spring Water. It's not just bottled water. I've been to their website. I've checked out everything in their water. So get a clue before trying to tell me I'm just drinking filtered tap water.

      You people are really making yourselves look like asses lol. Have fun having your minds controlled!!
      You might want to look at my posts on the first two pages here.
      One word: Informed.

      The whole problem is most of you don't understand how chemicals work and then you read articles telling you the whole world has been dumbed down by fluoridation. Without being able to give me a decent mechanism for how this works, I'm going to call bullshit.

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      Adam you never explained how a multitude of nobel prize winning doctors of medicine and the like think there is more than enough concern to warrant further study before we blindly fluoridate water...

      Do you consider yourself more informed than those professionals speaking out about it? I would like to think not.

      Obviously, you clearly polarized yourself in camp of not showing concern. That's your prerogative but don't spout your side as having more experience and knowledge to label those that show concern as ignorant to the science or studies behind it. That rash assumption in itself is ignorant to make. If a professional of the industry is going to say there is something worth showing concern, I'd rather take their word on it than some random internet persona with an ego who studies chemistry in school...

      Appeals to authority exhibits A-Z...


      "I would advise against fluoridation.. Side-effects cannot be excluded .. In Sweden, the emphasis nowadays is to keep the environment as clean as possible with regard to pharmacologically active and, thus, potentially toxic substances."
      - Dr. Arvid Carlsson, co-winner of the Nobel Prize for Medicine (2000)


      "The American Medical Association is NOT prepared to state that no harm will be done to any person by water fluoridation. The AMA has not carried out any research work, either long-term or short-term, regarding the possibility of any side effects."
      - Dr. Flanagan, Assistant Director of Environmental Health, American Medical Association.



      "I am appalled at the prospect of using water as a vehicle for drugs. Fluoride is a corrosive poison that will produce serious effects on a long range basis. Any attempt to use water this way is deplorable."
      - Dr. Charles Gordon Heyd, Past President of the American Medical Association.



      "E.P.A. should act immediately to protect the public, not just on the cancer data, but on the evidence of bone fractures, arthritis, mutagenicity and other effects." - Dr. William Marcus, Senior Toxicologist at E.P.A.



      "Water contains a number of substances that are undesirable, and fluorides are just one of them" stated Dr. F. A. Bull, State Dental Director of Wisconsin, speaking at the Fourth Annual Conference of State Dental Directors.
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      I'm not going to be apologetic for the fact that I know what I'm talking about. Like you say, I was mostly pointing out my own view on the topic and I believe we both came to a decent conclusion - you were presenting the concern of professionals you'd found, I was working on a strong knowledge of chemistry and biology. To tell me that my knowledge is not valuable would be rash, because I'm receiving the same education as the people you have quoted.
      My point was attacking people who were dragging down your argument by adding unfounded opinions, and hence, stupidity.

      And with that, I'll let them stay uninformed and hopefully never have to deal with anyone so ignorant.

      Goodbye

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      I never asked you apologize I asked you explain how you think yourself better than people already considered professionals of the industry. Of which, you have yet to explain why I should value your opinion over someone else's who has been practicing medicine or toxicology, and most likely has a vast knowledge of chemicals far superior to you... a student of chemistry...

      Let me know when you become a Nobel Prize winner or a Senior Toxicologist for the EPA... then we'll talk...


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      I bet the fluoride poison deniers are themselves drinking too much fluoride, which explains why they are so apathetic.
      I would rather die on my feet then to live on my knees.

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      Omg there's teeth cleaner in the tap water!!

      GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACY!!!

      Grow up.

      You people should be ashamed of such stupidity.

      And no, bottled water is just a marketing ploy. It's no different.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Seismosaur View Post
      Omg there's teeth cleaner in the tap water!!

      GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACY!!!

      Grow up.

      You people should be ashamed of such stupidity.

      And no, bottled water is just a marketing ploy. It's no different.
      Yea okay. Bottled water is a marketing ploy but let me ask you this.

      What other choice of drink do I have?

      I walk into a store...and buy healthy food...what Am I supposed to drink?

      Sugar filled soda? NO

      Energy Drinks? NO

      'Tea' with tons of sugar? NO

      that leaves me with....water, which the water here in phoenix has lots of calcium and has other nasty crap.

      So, i buy bottled...

      The tap here leaves a white residue everywhere....theres no way im drinking that garbage.


      You are the one who needs to grow up, just because you don't believe in something doesn't mean you need to automatically discredit and put it down as a conspiracy theory...its not a theory its reality.

      If your looking for stupidity, you need not to go far, just borrow a mirror. BTW seismo

      Please do us a favor, and drink lots of tap water and brush with fluoride, so that you can become docile and calm, and apathetic enough to not troll this thread.
      I would rather die on my feet then to live on my knees.

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      Well I don't know aobut you, but my house receives water, so I typically drink that.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Seismosaur View Post
      Well I don't know aobut you, but my house receives water, so I typically drink that.
      Good, keep drinking it

      I don't reccomend drinking Phoenix tap, its crap.

      I know a family friend who drank literally gallons of tap from here in phx, a year later he had a terrible kidney stone...which he has NEVER had living back in new york...then again in certain areas of new york the tap causes cancer....

      But my point is, tap is crap.

      If you don't believe us, it's your loss, it's your body, the only body you have...being poisoned, you only have one shot at life, and if you wanna drink it away and turn into some apathetic zombie, be my guest. I however prefer not to be a zombie, but to be a conscious thinking person.
      Last edited by guerilla; 06-12-2008 at 08:09 PM.
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      I don't drink tap water, I have a well.

      With lots of filters. What kind of idiot drinks the tap?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Seismosaur View Post
      I don't drink tap water, I have a well.

      With lots of filters. What kind of idiot drinks the tap?
      Lots of people do. They are what you call idiots.

      I have tons of filters too, i test my water with a device, and its still coming up as undrinkable literally...

      I test my bottle water and it comes up as nearly distilled for gods sake, its clean.


      Speaking of, distilled water is the best to drink.
      I would rather die on my feet then to live on my knees.

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