I know the question was not directed at me personally. I know that most all of us have had to have questioned the rational of the suicide bomber's methods. |
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Dragon Overlord has said in at least two threads that Islamofascist suicide bombings are a good thing because they "even up the score". We are talking about the targetting of innocent civilians, including children and babies. I understand that sometimes innocent people have to die during a legitimate war effort even though it is profoundly unfortunate. However, what I think is completely irrational is the idea that the killing of innocents in itself is something good. I think it is horribly tragic. I challenge Dragon Overlord to once and for all finally say specifically what is good about targetting innocent Israelis, Americans, and Iraqis and killing them on purpose and how it serves to "get even". I titled the thread with "Palestinian suicide bombings" because that is what we focussed on most recently, but my question is actually broader than that. I really want to understand this mindless and pointless terrorism shit, and I challenge Dragon Overlord not to duck out of the conversation this time. Dragon Overlord, I want you to be as specific as you possibly can and explain this... |
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I know the question was not directed at me personally. I know that most all of us have had to have questioned the rational of the suicide bomber's methods. |
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What about all the innocent Palestinians that are being slaughtered? We never hear about them, do we? Well, only if you are intelligent enough to realize that our media is full of BS and seek outside sources that aren't so biased. |
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Well that's what terrorism is, to inflict terror. It's not the military they're trying to terrorize, it's the general populace. Now every Israeli fears getting blown up every time they go to the market, mission accomplished. |
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I think that sums it up. They think even innocent Westerners and Israelis are evil, and they think they will be able to have an orgy with 75 virgin whores. They are brainwashed and crazy. As far as I know, that is the best answer that can be given. |
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Sucidie bombers actually do accomplish objectives but then again they do have negative effectes. |
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Last edited by Howie; 03-07-2008 at 12:21 AM.
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It succeeded in drawing the world's attention to the desperate situation of Palestinians within Israel's borders, and instilling fear in a vastly superior enemy. Remove the grounds for this behavior--young men who look forward to death because they've lost everything they had to lose--and we might have a chance to stop it. |
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If you have a sense of caring for others, you will manifest a kind of inner strength in spite of your own difficulties and problems. With this strength, your own problems will seem less significant and bothersome to you. By going beyond your own problems and taking care of others, you gain inner strength, self-confidence, courage, and a greater sense of calm.Dalai Lama
I was under the impression that all, or at least most, Israeli citizen's were soldiers, either in service or on reserve. I'm not entirely sure how truthful this is, so don't hold me to it, but if it is true doesn't that mean that most of them aren't civilians? |
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Solution to middle east: |
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Or maybe the whole damn region. |
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No, we vape the whole region. Problem over. Period. |
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Finally, that qualifies as an answer from you. So the blowing up of masses of innocents hurts Israeli tourism, immigration, and stock. So all this time you have been saying that the mass killing of little kiddies, babies, mommies, and daddies is a good thing because it hurts Israeli immigration and the financial situations of the innocents who are not killed. To make an understatement, I very much disagree with you. |
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I told you in my PM that making a jewish state on Arab land is effectively tresspasing of the highest order. They have no right to have a country on Arab Land, I'm all for whatever it takes to get rid of these trespassers. |
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People who are on a piece of land because they were born there, their parents were born there, and their grandparents were born there are NOT trespassers. You are promoting flat out religious discrimination. Israel should be a democracy where all religions are treated equally. Anything else is an injustice, including the Israeli government's current bias. |
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Ya more like 80% of Israels population only has a history of 60 years in the region and even less go back to the Ailyah of 1882. Today there are only a handful of native jews. I use the word Native for those who pre date the Ailyah of 1882 when dissallusioned European jews started settling in Palestine. |
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Every person there is an individual. The religion of Judaism is not a superorganism for which every individual Jew is responsible. It seems that a lot of your points are based on the idea that every member of a category is responsible for what every other member does. You talk as though if a man with red hair shoots a man with blue hair, it makes sense for another man with blue hair to shoot another man with red hair and that such an act would be "getting even". That is not a fair or logical system. Every person is an individual. I don't believe in any kind of religious, racial, or other ethnic discrimination. It is completely unfair. |
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No im not saying that. I disagree and btw its a point i argue with israel supporters. On onother forum Israel supporters say that like 2000 years ago thre was a jewish state in the area and for like 3000 years there was a continous jewish prescence in Palestine and by their logic because a handful of jews lived t her continously it automatically extends ownership of the land to the worlds jews. Obviously its more complicated then that but thats what it boils down to. |
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Last edited by dragonoverlord; 03-06-2008 at 06:45 AM.
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Is Europe for white people and only white people? I don't see how the two ideas are any different morally. I think such stances are very unfair and dangerous. |
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The issue with Europe and the issue with Israel/Palestine is quite different since it envolves different circumstances and the issue with palestine is much more recent. |
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Everybody should respect everybody. Races and religions should not own land. Individuals should own land. |
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The European Immigrants did buy land, fair enough. They bought up land and built Kibbutzes(A type of farming village) and it was all fine and dandy until they demanded a country when they had been in Palestine for barely a generation. Do you know what the UN did? They gave the Jewish european immigrants a jewish state on land with 700 000 arabs on it. |
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Last edited by dragonoverlord; 03-06-2008 at 07:48 AM.
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