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      hypnosis

      im not sure that this is in the right forum so anyway...


      latley my daughter was reading a book and it is called "molly moons amazing book of hypnotism" it is about a girl and she discovers the art of hypnosis and blah blah blah.
      so i was thinking is it possible to hypnotise people?because sometimes at carnivals and fairs they have hypnotists who pick people from the audience and hypnotise them.

      your opions??
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      Yes, it's very possible. At least here in Norway, it's used as a form of therapy to help smokers quit smoking, help curing phobias, help overweight people, and more.
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      Yes, it is a scientifically verified state of consciousness.

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      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnosis

      I haven't read through the wiki extensively, but I recall reading that only a small variant of people is highly susceptible to hypnosis of the stage-acting kind.

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      its real

      my sister was hypnotized at a comedy show. freaky - watching your own sister do strange things on stage while an audience laughs. not that, I wasn't laughing. I mean, that was a pretty funny show. but its real. btw, my sister remembered nothing of the show, so that night was kinda disappointing for her. everyone else had fun but her

      thing is, you can't be hypnotized unless you sorta allow yourself to be

      at the beginning of the comedy show, the comedic ask everyone to participate in something. I knew this was how he would get his 'volunteers'. And my sister was hypnotized, jeez, in a minute.

      Thing is, she can fall asleep within five minutes in real life. And I however, can take up to an hour. I think this plays a role in hypnotism, and how easy or not easy someone can be hypnotized.

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      It is a very viable form of therapy, it's not the hyped up hocus-pocus you see in films. Like Juroara said, you cannot be hypnotised into doing something you don't want to do and you need to want and be receptive to the hypnosis for it to work.
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      For example hypnotising someone into not feeling pain seems like something to be hyped about. Not just because of the implications, also by giving us more to work with when researching the human mind.
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      When I said no "the hyped out hocus pocus you see in films" I eant the sort of film in which the bad guy with the big moustache hypnotizes the good guy into killing a train-full of people regardless of the fact that the good guy had no wish to do so/be hypnotized.
      "Man is least himself when he speaks in his own person. Give a man a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
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      Ok, I reckon hypnotised subjects do not remember what happened when they were hypnotised. But is there a way to know if things they do/say/choose when hypnotised are conscious? What defines what is said when the person is hypnotised? Is it always what the person would think, or does the person's mind make up a likely or impulsive response? Finally, can the person remember what happened when he/she was hypnotised, much like dream recalling?

      I'm totally geeked by this. I sooo wanna get hypnotised to know what it is like.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Kromoh View Post
      Ok, I reckon hypnotised subjects do not remember what happened when they were hypnotised.
      You reckon wrong. Hypnotic amnesia is very rare - another popular misconception.

      Hypnosis as a state of consciousness is very similar to meditation. Hypnosis is really something that you do to yourself - the hypnotist is there to guide you in hypnotizing yourself, and then to give you hypnotic suggestions (which you could do yourself).

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      COOOOOOOOOOOOL xD

      So you are saying that, if I'm not suggested to forget what I experienced, I'll remember it? Nice

      Can't wait to be hypnotised.
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      Ayuh. I've been hypnotised for insomnia. I've self-hypnotised for a few things, like quitting drinking, procrastinating, etc. It is good if you can have the self-discipline to put yourself under everyday.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Kromoh View Post
      COOOOOOOOOOOOL xD

      So you are saying that, if I'm not suggested to forget what I experienced, I'll remember it? Nice

      Can't wait to be hypnotised.

      the state of consciousness you are in has been related to the state of consciousness you are in while falling asleep, where you experience HI

      when you are experiencing HI, you can imagine any little thought you have manifests as some sort of image in the back of your mind. hypnosis works like this too. the guide says something, and you imagine it, and pop! you experience it like you would a dream.

      there are people who remember and there are people who don't remember the experience. the recall also seems to be related to the recalling of dreams. my sister who was hypnotized says she only remembered bits and pieces and sounds, and it was all very dream like. it didn't feel like being awake at all. while it was happening, she thought she was asleep.

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      Quote Originally Posted by juroara View Post
      the state of consciousness you are in has been related to the state of consciousness you are in while falling asleep, where you experience HI

      when you are experiencing HI, you can imagine any little thought you have manifests as some sort of image in the back of your mind. hypnosis works like this too. the guide says something, and you imagine it, and pop! you experience it like you would a dream.

      there are people who remember and there are people who don't remember the experience. the recall also seems to be related to the recalling of dreams. my sister who was hypnotized says she only remembered bits and pieces and sounds, and it was all very dream like. it didn't feel like being awake at all. while it was happening, she thought she was asleep.
      Bah thanks for the enlightening info!! In fact, I can kind of picture how it happens. UBERNESS. Any website teaches you to do it (self hypnosis I mean)?
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      does anyone know how to preform hypnois??
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      I've studied hypnosis. It mainly relies on the persons belief that he/she can be hypnotised. It's pretty easy to hypnotise someone. you just half to get them relaxed while you give suggestions in a calming voice. it also helps if you are relaxed as well.
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      I've studied hypnotism but am not that good at all kinds. But there are different kinds of hypnotism. Basically hypnotism is sugestion. Hypnotism is inducing a state of trance. We are in a trance whenever we are not lucid in waking or dreaming. While driving a car, for example, it is very hard not to go into trance. Anyone can be hypnotized whether they want to or not except the very very aware or enlightened. Hypnotism is a great tool for therapy and guided meditation. But hypnosis is differnet then TRUE meditation where the meditator is in an extremely lucid state. Advertisments make use of hypnotism and salesman do also. Here is an example:
      Do you want to make more money?
      Do you want to have more time to spend with your family and friends?
      Are you tired of working every day just to live from paycheck to paycheck?
      Then you should buy my book on how to make billions of dollars!

      In this example your answers are most likely going to be "Yes" and this sets gets your mind in an accepting state to accept the suggestion to buy the book. NLP (NeuroLinguisticProgramming) is a great great tool for self growth and healing AND it can also be used to persuade people into. Salesman use it and people use it to try to get laid. Check it out. There are lots of good videos on it on youtube.

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      Sorry I tried to embed a funny video in here about hypnosis but it doesn't work. Here is the link:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBtHC-yUwSc

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      brainwave entrainment. anyone heard of it?

      hypnosis is basically putting someone in lower brainwave states. like the theta range, which is most commonly associated with dreams and lucid dreaming. this is actually the state of mind accessed when in deep meditation or when during sleeping hours.

      you can use self-hypnotism and self-suggestion to basically reprogram your brain. All you have to do is believe you can do it...

      brainwave entrainment is a tool that allows you to become hypnotized at a push of a button. How it works is sound waves at certain frequencies that (depending on the type of brainwave entrainment) resonate in your head and you can actually tune your mind to them. effectively instantly entering a state of deep meditation (where you can have lucid dreams whenever you want).

      if you want to learn more, i suggest www.transparentcorp.com
      this company makes a program that can be easily learned and used to expand your LD experiences to a whole new level and pretty much improve life on all aspects. (research now suggests meditation improves whole brain function which in turn improves your whole mind-body)

      although you don't really need brainwave entrainment to hypnotize, meditate or lucid dream, it certainly helps someone learn it, as now i don't even use it and i can suspend myself in a lucid state of mind for hours at a time, after only a few months of using brainwave technology.

      whether or not you remember your state of hypnosis is really the same as dream recall.
      “Dream what you want to dream; go where you want to go; be what you want to be, because you have only one life and one chance to do all the things you want to do.”

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lord Bennington View Post
      Ayuh. I've been hypnotised for insomnia. I've self-hypnotised for a few things, like quitting drinking, procrastinating, etc. It is good if you can have the self-discipline to put yourself under everyday.
      you're like.. 13 and you need to quit drinking?! o.0

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      thanks for the posts people keep em' comin!
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      The extent that hypnotism is 'real' is an issue of much debate. Some people do honestly believe that it puts the subject in an 'altered state' of consciousness. Many others agree that there is probably no altered state, but just higher suggestibility, to an extent. Also, many people play along with hypnotists to either prevent themselves or the hypnotist from suffering embarassment. Hypnosis can also act as a placebo - people expect to be hypnotised, and therefore act as if hypnotised.

      Personally I think there isn't enough evidence to show that hypnotism is 'real'. Sure, it can be used as therapy or anaesthetic, but only with particularily succeptible people. For more about this, I'd recommend Derren Brown's book, Tricks of the Mind, which deals with hypnosis in great detail, and explains both sides of the argument.

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      Chickens are really easy to hypnotise. We've got some, and all you have to do is stroke their crowny things for a bit and they stop moving for a while. No really.

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      i wouldn't doubt that much of the entertainment value of hypnosis is placebo, and the embarrassment factor, but i think it's pretty clear that hypnosis is capable of putting someone (who allows themselves to be hypnotized) in an altered state of mind (alpha and theta range)

      i know when i meditate i basically hypnotize myself, so to say that hypnosis isn't real is like saying meditation isn't real ~ so it has to be to some extent.

      i do think that the guy telling the people what to do on a stage and whatnot is mostly the placebo effect. I kind of want to be subject to one of those so i can be like "UMM NO HYPNOTIZER-MAN LOL stuh foo nub"
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      Thumbs up Hypnosis

      Hello LDhippie,
      I don't know about carnivals and fairs hypnotists who pick people from the audience and hypnotise them. But I know that Hypnotise or Hypnosis is a good art in a positive way as you can boost self confidence and self esteem, quit smoking, control pain, reduce weight. Using hypnosis for a positive change like phobia relief or memory improvement can yield dramatic results as well.


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