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      Was Kurt Cobain murdered?

      For those who don't know, Curt Cobain was the lead singer, guitarist, and song writer for the pioneering grunge rock group Nirvana. He changed the face of popular music more than just about anybody else in history (Nirvana's sudden popularity and the grunge revolution that followed absolutely annihilated the 80's left over pop music scene and the big glam/hair metal genre, and Nirvana is still very popular today.). In April of 1994, Curt Cobain was found dead in his Seattle home, and his death was ruled a suicide by the Seattle PD. However, there is a controversy over whether or not he was actually murdered. Check out what this detective has to say about it. Make sure you see the options at the bottom of the page.

      http://www.cobaincase.com/

      Hmmmmmm....

      In addition to all of that, I know that his wife, Courtney Love, became a megasuccess almost overnight after appearing on every talk show she could possibly get on right after Curt's death. On the cover of her band Hole's album that got gigantic in the summer of 1994, there is a picture of a prom queen holding prom flowers and looking ecstatic over her new status. In their big hit of the summer, "Doll Parts", Courtney says, "I want to be the girl with the most cake." The name of the album is Live Through This.

      I am not sure, but my guess would be that Courtney had Curt murdered for many reasons, the most important one being that she wanted to get ridiculously famous herself.

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      Shit, that was an interesting read actually some stuff I didn't even know about but since I don't know the whole story behind it, I would just leave it at that.
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      In my opinion, yes, he was killed.

      It's just so implausible that he killed himself.
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      I've always wondered why someone whos on top of the world would want to kill himself

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      Quote Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba View Post
      I've always wondered why someone whos on top of the world would want to kill himself
      His success status was on top of the world, but his emotional state wasn't. In fact, he hated how successful he had become. He had severe problems with depression any way, and he was a major heroin addict. However, I think there is a lot of considerable evidence that he did not kill himself.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba View Post
      I've always wondered why someone whos on top of the world would want to kill himself
      Being on top of the world forces you to carry the weight of the Universe on your back.

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      I am not a routine thread resurrecter, but there is new information on this case. I will put this post in a new thread if necessary, but I was hoping to illustrate that what we discussed six years ago just got clearer. I am very often called a crazy conspiracy theorist, but sometimes my views are confirmed. I think the truths of all of my conspiracy claims will be revealed eventually. It often takes a few decades for truths about insane events to be widely accepted. That is because the truth is often too shocking to accept right after the shock of a terrible occurrence.

      First, this:

      Kurt Cobain note accusing Courtney Love of ‘siphoning money’ released by Seattle police | National Post

      On top of that, this:

      Courtney Love's Dad Claims She Was Involved in Cobain Death

      Yeah, the Seattle police are still saying it was a suicide, but they at least reexamined it and presented some new evidence. I think they said the case is still closed because they don't want to cause too much of a frenzy though they want to let people know that they have not completely let go of the issue. I think there is a serious investigation going on. The truth will eventually surface.

      I plan to resurrect my Sandy Hook thread when the truth about it is majorly revealed in the next few decades.
      Last edited by Universal Mind; 05-03-2014 at 03:39 AM.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      I am not a routine thread resurrecter, but there is new information on this case. I will put this post in a new thread if necessary, but I was hoping to illustrate that what we discussed six years ago just got clearer.
      Nah, you ok. It's a continuation of a story.

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      Quote Originally Posted by gab View Post
      Nah, you ok. It's a continuation of a story.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      Thanks, gab.
      No problem. But next time send beer instead of cookies.

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      Quote Originally Posted by gab View Post
      No problem. But next time send beer instead of cookies.
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      why are so many people obsessed with conspiracy theories? (well, it actually doesn't matter as long as it's not some bs like the "vaccines cause autism" conspiracy theory)

      I don't think the police would have said it's a suicide if it actually wasn't...
      but idk, american police is stupid and corrupt as far as I know

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      There are tons of conspiracy theories I don't believe, but I do think Kurt Cobain was most likely murdered. I don't think the police were in on a conspiracy to kill him. I think his wife hired somebody to kill him because he was about to divorce her and she know that she could become larger than life if he died. I had never heard of her until he died, but she was on a talk show rampage within days. She got extremely famous really fast. That is just the tip of the ice burg. I think the police are just lying about there not being an investigation, which is understandable. If the world knew the case was officially reopened and there was a full blown investigation, too many people would just assume that Courtney Love had Kurt killed and then call the police incompetent if they can't prove it. From there, they might say the police were in on Kurt's death or something.
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      I don't think anyone would do that. If I was someone's wife I wouldn't hire someone to kill them just because they wanna divorce me, that's insane
      even if she was insane and wanted attention, Kurt Cobain was pretty depressed too, so it's also likely he was suicidal and just killed himself

      well even if she was insane and wanted attention, she could have got it without having to kill him.

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      Do you think Courtney Love would even be famous if Kurt hadn't died? She wasn't before then. She was the lead singer of an underground band that was going nowhere. They had albums, but they weren't selling much. Did you get a look at the cover of the album that was released four days after Kurt's body was found? It's in the second post in this thread. It's pretty disturbing and thought provoking. Here it is again. You can enlarge it by clicking it.

      hole live through this.jpg

      Notice the title of the album. "Live Through This." Courtney also has wavy blonde hair and wears a lot of make up. Keep in mind that she became the biggest new rock star in the world within a few months.

      Also, Kurt's "suicide note" was a declaration of dropping out of the music business for a big part of it. When it gets into stuff about wanting to die, the handwriting suddenly changes.

      There is controversy over whether Kurt had so much heroin in his system at the time of death that he couldn't even pull the trigger of the gun. Doctors have disputed each other's claims on it.

      There is a very underground punk rock singer who is a total thug in L.A. who claims that Courtney Love offered him money to kill Kurt Cobain. He might be lying, but it's interesting in the midst of everything else.

      I resurrected this thread because Seattle police recently revealed two things. One is a note found in Kurt's pocket when his body was found. The note pretty much says that Courtney was a bitch who was using him. Also, Courtney's father says he believes Courtney had Kurt killed. What is up with these friends and relatives of Courtney saying this stuff about her?

      Here is more stuff to consider:

      http://www.justiceforkurt.com/

      I put this in the original post:

      http://www.cobaincase.com/
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      that's what I don't like about conspiracy theories... they sound fairly logical or evident
      but if you take a few steps back and regard the whole issue, they start looking less logical and dubious.

      everything you say kinda makes sense. But wives normally don't kill their husbands, and the police should have no problem to find out if it's murder or not.
      the angle of the shot, for instance, should be different if it's suicide.
      It's also possible that someone wants to blame Courtney Love for some reason

      it's logical, but it's no evidence. If it was evidence the case would already be closed... in fact, maybe it is closed coz the police has already proven that it's suicide.
      (or maybe they're just saying it's closed while they're investigating, as you suggested)

      but it doesn't even matter anyway. It doesn't affect us, we don't even know Kurt Cobain. Nobody would give a shit if he was an unpopular person.
      Instead of thinking about things like this, things that don't matter, we should think about things that affect tons of people, like corrupt politics, economy, poverty, etc

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      Ha ha, look at the other thread titles in this forum and see that I do address lots of other things.

      There is no conclusive proof we know of that Kurt Cobain was murdered. However, there is evidence. I don't think Courtney did it herself. I think she most likely hired a professional to do it. Professionals know how to make murders look like suicides, at least on the surface. They do often mess something up. Also, there are tons of cases of wives having their husbands killed or killing their husbands themselves. Many of the women who have were gold diggers. The fact that two people are married does not prove that they love each other.
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