Quote Originally Posted by Captain Sleepalot View Post
The other problem with America is that people such as Universal Mind are much more motivated to vote by fear than reasoning or thinking about the actual issues that the candidates base their platforms on.

One has only to look at the associations that certain Presidents have had with extreme right wing evangelists who have said VERY SIMILAR things to what Jeremiah Wright said to know that this fear of the Wright-Obama association is hypocritical at best and just ignorant at worst.

I don't agree at all with Jeremiah Wright, by the way, or any other evangelical who claims that disasters and tragedies are God's way of punishing America.
If I am so unreasonable, try countering my points. I am not talking about mere "association". I am talking about going to the nut's church for twenty years and being so close to him he is compared to being his close relative. Do you honestly not understand the difference? You... are being unreasonable.

Quote Originally Posted by Dreamworld View Post
Its what the people think.. Its all over CNN. Also his age and health condition aren't up to par.

Its not over for Obama.
So tell me... Is the guy really McCain's pastor, the guy he goes to for spiritual advice every Sunday? Was he preaching that stuff in church? Did McCain know that and still turn to him for spiritual direction every Sunday for twenty years? Does McCain consider the pastor to be like a close relative? Talk to me.