Thread: Does Michelle Obama overestimate Americans?

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

You'd think you wouldn't want to argue with me so much after I said she was insignificant... or something.

Yeah, it's not like I created the thread to bait you into saying something(s) stupid.





Or something









Thanks for your contribution to the Obama campaign--every little bit helps.

Originally Posted by The Enterer

If she left a word out of the sentence the second time she read the speech that would be a misspeak, no? But you ducked my question altogether...

No, she caught flack over her first statement, so she threw in a safety word the second time. Even if that were not true, my point would still stand. Her statement was idiotic even when she used the word "really". There is plenty to be really proud of the United States for that happened before this year, and it was stupid to make that comment when her husband was running for president. Neither of you can find your way around that.

Michelle Obama is insignificant any way.

Originally Posted by Taosaur

Yeah, it's not like I created the thread to bait you into saying something(s) stupid.

Or something

Thanks for your contribution to the Obama campaign--every little bit helps.

Thanks for showing how dodgy, wrong, and intellectually dishonest Obama supporters are.

When you made the point about "really", did you honestly not know about the first video? I am not sure if you were being dishonest or uninformed. It is definitely one of the two. Which one?

And still you dodge...

Originally Posted by The Enterer

And still you dodge...

Example, please.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Example, please.

Quibbling over word choice while ignoring the substance of what was said?

Originally Posted by Taosaur

Quibbling over word choice while ignoring the substance of what was said?

I countered what both of you said. Your turn...

Why do you want to have these conversations when all you end up doing is lying? What is the point?

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

I countered what both of you said. Your turn...

Why do you want to have these conversations when all you end up doing is lying? What is the point?

That's so racist.

Originally Posted by Taosaur

That's so racist.

Stop trolling just because you want the poor to starve.

Just turn over your king. You lost this debate, and this is about the dumbest thread I have posted in in a... EVER.

I never liked chess--always more fond of Go. So we can agree that there are no more meaningful moves to be made and let others determine who claimed the most territory.

I'd say that was more an exchange of opinions, insults and baseless claims than anything we could call a debate. The initial exchanges on the 'bimbo' question made for a pretty sweet ironic parallel to the interpretation of Mrs. Obama's "proud" statements, though.

Lulz have been had.

Originally Posted by Taosaur

I never liked chess--always more fond of Go. So we can agree that there are no more meaningful moves to be made and let others determine who claimed the most territory.

I'd say that was more an exchange of opinions, insults and baseless claims than anything we could call a debate. The initial exchanges on the 'bimbo' question made for a pretty sweet ironic parallel to the interpretation of Mrs. Obama's "proud" statements, though.

Lulz have been had.

That is no excuse for clubbing baby seals.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

We're talking about the system and its history, not the land.

You don't feel proud to be part of an organization that kills people and takes their money, no matter what the organization's history.

Originally Posted by RedfishBluefish

You don't feel proud to be part of an organization that kills people and takes their money, no matter what the organization's history.

No matter why they're doing the killing, no matter what the nature of the people being killed, no matter how much it will help the future of the world, no matter how many times the organization has saved the world, no matter how many people the organization has liberated, and no matter what the organization does for world humanitarian aid?

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

A lot of bimbos have books smarts. I don't think she could take me in a debate.

I'm sure your tenure as a highschool geometry teacher makes you more than equipped to beat a doctor of law in honest debate. I'm sure your patented straw man tactic will leave her guessing. As long as you never admit defeat you're never wrong, right?

Originally Posted by Xaqaria

I'm sure your tenure as a highschool geometry teacher makes you more than equipped to beat a doctor of law in honest debate. I'm sure your patented straw man tactic will leave her guessing. As long as you never admit defeat you're never wrong, right?

My law degree and business knowledge might help too. I don't teach geometry any more, Mr. Assumptions. Now actually give a counterargument to something I said. You don't do that so much in this forum. I think we both know why that is.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

My law degree and business knowledge might help too. I don't teach geometry any more, Mr. Assumptions. Now actually give a counterargument to something I said. You don't do that so much in this forum. I think we both know why that is.

Pics or it didn't happen.

I really can't be arsed to argue at you UM. I'm not amused by shouting at brick walls. I will, however, provide links to all of my previous well sourced arguments that I've made on this forum that you usually meet with the classic strawman side step (as you like to call, "Ole' reliable") If you so desire.

Oh, and also;

Originally Posted by Taosaur

talking heads notwithstanding.

Originally Posted by Xaqaria

Pics or it didn't happen.

Oh, okay. I was thinking it did.

Originally Posted by Xaqaria

I really can't be arsed to argue at you UM. I'm not amused by shouting at brick walls. I will, however, provide links to all of my previous well sourced arguments that I've made on this forum that you usually meet with the classic strawman side step (as you like to call, "Ole' reliable") If you so desire.

I'm afraid that does not quite qualify as a counterargument. But it was an amusing blowing of hot air, as usual.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

I'm afraid that does not quite qualify as a counterargument. But it was an amusing blowing of hot air, as usual.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=sQXsuAey-NE

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

http://youtube.com/watch?v=sQXsuAey-NE

My thoughts exactly.

Can't we all just agree to cling doggedly to our opinions?

Originally Posted by Taosaur

Can't we all just agree to cling doggedly to our opinions?

No. I have no opinions, I only believe the Truth.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

That's a new one.

No matter why they're doing the killing, no matter what the nature of the people being killed, no matter how much it will help the future of the world, no matter how many times the organization has saved the world, no matter how many people the organization has liberated, and no matter what the organization does for world humanitarian aid?

Red: no.
Green: yes - that's a matter of current policy and not history.
Blue: maybe - humanitarian aid doesn't itself justify killing.

An organization is defined by what it does. If a 'good' country suddenly turns around and starts screwing everyone over, I wouldn't consider it the same country.
In same way one can feel proud for certain things but not others - and compare the America of the past to the America of 2008.