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Found an interesting peice of writing on dualism. It should hopefully make you realise how ridiculous the idea of dualism is - or at least make you think about it. |
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juroara,if you know nothing about the philosophical debate around philosophy of mind, including dualism, functionalism, identity-theory, and all that stuff, people refrain from making bold statements. Statements are fine. Just not bold ones. |
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“What a peculiar privilege has this little agitation of the brain which we call 'thought'” -Hume
I am know enough on the subject matter and I'll make as many bold statements as I want |
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Dualism is inherently non-duality. |
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You merely have to change your point of view slightly, and then that glass will sparkle when it reflects the light.
Duality hinges on a single pin |
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Signature work courtesy of Cloud
I hate John Searle... his arguments are ridiculous. |
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Get out of my thread juroara. You obviously don't understand what we're talking about here. We're talking about the existence of a soul and it's relation to the physical body. And it's just philosophy - just ideas. Don't get so worked up. So if you don't want to talk about the subject, get out. |
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hi! still here |
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That's the problem I'm having when I read this. It says this drug kills the soul, but the body continues to function in exactly the same manner. What has been removed by the drug? What has changed? All it says is that "the soul" has been removed, yet "the soul" is left undefined. It might as well be wondering what happens when we take away our habblemaffer. |
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Yep, Forsaken understands it. I'm not saying this text is true or should be taken literally. It's just an interesting thought experiment. Please, people, let's not start a flame battle. |
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jurora, before talking at length about this subject, perhaps you'd be so kind as to read up on what dualism means. |
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I always find that the best argument against dualism is the most basic. |
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Obviously consciousness and matter are not separate. This doesn't mean consciousness does not exist, though. It seems so simple to me, and yet no one else see's it. Consciousness is the principle of energy, just as energy is the principle of matter. It's not that witohut consciousness, there is no energy, it's that energy is made of consciousness, it is densified consciousness. There is no pituitary gland communicating, nor your heart nor your spinal cord, communication is not necessary between the body and your consciousness anymore than somebody must communicate to themselves. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
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Excellent argument, there are physical manifestation of consciousness all around us. When your arm moves, that is a manifestation of consciousness. Every action and every decision is a manifestation of consciousness. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
Crouching tiger, hidden semantics. |
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You merely have to change your point of view slightly, and then that glass will sparkle when it reflects the light.
One would also question why anyone has any form of subjective experience based on a purely physicalist understanding of the universe. Surely all existence should be nothing more than information. The same inability the dualist has in explaining how the "soul" interacts with the "body" is echoed in physicalism which either ignores "subjective experience" or says such experience (what we are all, I assume, experiencing right now) "arises from the body", an equally incomprehensible statement with no valid scientific connection other than correlation with no clear form of causation. |
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I wouldn't call myself a physicalist but I still reject dualism. Personally I think physical and mental are both aspects of the same structure; a structure we might call 'logic' or 'mathematics' or 'platonic reality'. |
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Rejecting dualism is duality, or maybe duality is duality, and can not truly exist in rejection not being duality? |
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You merely have to change your point of view slightly, and then that glass will sparkle when it reflects the light.
If there is only one truth is there duality? |
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