Thread: White Privilege

Originally Posted by Jeff777

And you think white privilege prevents this? How? White privilege has been around as long as racism and if Globalization is gaining, I'm not sure how you see white privilege as "fending this off".

White privilege in white areas - black privilege in black areas - Asian privilage in Asian areas etc... I'm not saying non whites should have less rights than whites in white areas - I mean that our western culture should remain unchanged and unaffected by the other cultures. "Pure".
Smaller cultures are absorbed and destroyed by globalization. By remaining loyal to your own culture in your country you can prevent being sucked up by the system.

Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox

White privilege in white areas - black privilege in black areas - Asian privilage in Asian areas etc... I'm not saying non whites should have less rights than whites in white areas - I mean that our western culture should remain unchanged and unaffected by the other cultures. "Pure".
Smaller cultures are absorbed and destroyed by globalization. By remaining loyal to your own culture in your country you can prevent being sucked up by the system.

Why do you feel so strongly against globalization? o.o

Because it threatens diversity. Smaller cultures are changed forever or even disappear altogether - this is a real shame. I'm into linguistics, and now I know that there are about 3000-8000 languages on this world, of which thousands are on the "endangered languages list". Come on, that's a shame.
All those little things that make this big and diverse world interesting are disappearing. When I go to let's say south africa, I DON'T want to eat at McDonalds... I want something typical for that region.

Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox

Because it threatens diversity. Smaller cultures are changed forever or even disappear altogether - this is a real shame. I'm into linguistics, and now I know that there are about 3000-8000 languages on this world, of which thousands are on the "endangered languages list". Come on, that's a shame.
All those little things that make this big and diverse world interesting are disappearing. When I go to let's say south africa, I DON'T want to eat at McDonalds... I want something typical for that region.

While I may not entirely agree with you, I do see your point.

Im going to try and sound as reserved as possible in this respect, but to me it all comes down to percentages of population. This country is still predominantly white so of course things relating to white culture are going to be more prevalent. That being said, if you go to an area of the US where it is predominantly another race you will find the exact opposite. I view this as good. In fact, I dont mind if other cultures continue to grow in this country, I just dont think any other culture should have to die down because another is growing. Soon, this country may have more hispanics then whites...at that time will we then have an article exactly like this except titled "Hispanic Privilege"? Hopefully not.

Originally Posted by tkdyo

Im going to try and sound as reserved as possible in this respect, but to me it all comes down to percentages of population. This country is still predominantly white so of course things relating to white culture are going to be more prevalent. That being said, if you go to an area of the US where it is predominantly another race you will find the exact opposite. I view this as good. In fact, I dont mind if other cultures continue to grow in this country, I just dont think any other culture should have to die down because another is growing. Soon, this country may have more hispanics then whites...at that time will we then have an article exactly like this except titled "Hispanic Privilege"? Hopefully not.

Hmm, interesting points tkdyo .

white privilege..!! its a double edged sword!!

in this day and age, I'm happy to be short with curly hair and facial features that are latin. My appearance is ethnically generic, most people have no idea what my "race" is. I can sorta "blend" in. I can "blend" in with whites. I can tell them I'm French, some thought I was French - they don't know any better. I can tell them I'm Mexican - they won't argue with me. I'm not Mexican. That's the nice part about being hispanic and having genes from all parts of world - europe, middle east, africa, and native caribbean blood. BE JEALOUS! Not to mention, my height, while short for an american, is more normal in other places. So I won't look like a lanky amazon walking around in tokyo! HAH

this person does fit that sort of american white middle class stereotype, in that they seem to be saying that as a white person they are so privilege, they need not have fear. life is bliss, tra-la-la-la-la!

HELLO!! that was the kind of IGNORANCE that shocked americans that some one actually wanted to, GASP, attack us. And that they actually, did. And when the terrorists attacked New York, do you think it was because they have beef with the hispanic population??? New York City has always been a symbol of America. A symbol of the WHITE western world, and all that it stands for.

And what do you think those suicide idiots were imagining when they attacked New York, I would think, in their blind ignorance that they were imagining : white blonde christian church going pizza and hamburger eating americans. Not because they like other races better, they don't. But thats the sort of ignorance others have of americans. That is what they think of, when they hear the word "A M E R I C A N". So in this respect, I'm grateful im not included in the picture. Though I should be. *why doesn't anyone think of the short person with curly hair? why?*

There are many places in the world, where your chances of being kidnapped and ransomed for money increases - because of the blinding whiteness of your skin. There are so many stories like this. And in these dangerous parts, really any american is in danger because these dangerous folk equate american with money. But let's face it, youre tall and white, you just look more american than me, and you can be bloody fuckin european! These dangerous places are found in Central and south america, africa, the middle east, asia...........cuba. That's, a lot!

That's a lot of places where the white privilege doesn't really exist.

And that's why this person seems to illustrate the stereotype of the ignorant white american - ignorant of how the world is really going round. Ignorant of how, the white skin color today is hated in other parts of the world.

So for all of you tall ass white blondies out there, you are a glowing target - literally in the sun - if you aren't already a lobster. And remember, when visiting far and away and exotic countries, YOU STAND OUT. And when standing out isn't a good thing, stick to the tourist areas

So I admit it's kinda nice not looking like the stereotypical american, when people are thinking bad thoughts about americans. But I will never be as privileged. Not because of my race, but my gender

For one, I'm too afraid to walk at night!

What date did this person write this list. EDIT: 1990 winter issue of something apparently.

18 years ago(I mean well depending on whether it was written at the beginning or end of the year).

Maybe half of the things she said were accurate then, but I find most of these claims just silly compared to today. And some of what she complained about had nothing to do with race, but instead money. Another thing which made me annoyed was the claims she was making that essentially living in a place that has a larger population of your race is somehow a privileged status... I don't see how that is but ok.


Btw, Catholics don't like to circumcise.

I personally think circumcision is wrong...mutilating a baby for no reason?

I think something like that is a big choice and should be left up to the person who it is being done to. Let boys grow up before you start performing surgeries on them that actually can wait...

And actually, in many hospitals during the time I was born you actually had to opt out of having your child circumcised if you didn't want him circumcised.

By providing those statistics I did not mean to steer this thread in a differant direction.
I could split if if you want Jeff. ~Snip it in two.

Originally Posted by Sandform

What date did this person write this list. EDIT: 1990 winter issue of something apparently.

18 years ago(I mean well depending on whether it was written at the beginning or end of the year).

Maybe half of the things she said were accurate then, but I find most of these claims just silly compared to today. And some of what she complained about had nothing to do with race, but instead money. Another thing which made me annoyed was the claims she was making that essentially living in a place that has a larger population of your race is somehow a privileged status... I don't see how that is but ok.


Btw, Catholics don't like to circumcise.

I personally think circumcision is wrong...mutilating a baby for no reason?

I think something like that is a big choice and should be left up to the person who it is being done to. Let boys grow up before you start performing surgeries on them that actually can wait...

And actually, in many hospitals during the time I was born you actually had to opt out of having your child circumcised if you didn't want him circumcised.

I don't see how it's mutilation.

It has benefits, when the kid is a baby you don't have to roll his foreskin back to clean him. I'm definitely circumcizing my kid.

There are two parts of the human brain. The thinker, and the prover. What the thinker thinks, the prover will do everything in it's power to prove.

This is bullshit.

Someone earlier said it about being a cultural difference rather than a racial. I'm not going to say that race plays no factor at all, but I would say that culture has more to do with this than anything else. To me this seems like an over generalized, and slightly offensive assumption. Fact is, a black person can do anything a white person can do. Barack Obama is probably the best example of this...Soon we are all going to be coffee-coloured with brown eyes and dark hair anyway. (C wut i did thur?)

Hmmm quite a few of you have some rather skewed views on the world, however I will not mention names, seems the majority are not to sure about what the OP is about. But that sounds more like a personal problem so I won't touch on it.

Yes there is as a matter of fact "White Privelage" whether you as a person of this race acknowledges it or not doesn't really matter it's still there and is proven to exist every single day. I could list countless scenarios myself where I have experienced this, but that would just be a waste of time on my part.

There are also many other privelages as well "Black Privelage", "Asian Privelage", "Indian Privelage", "Spanish Privelage", "Middle-Eastern Priverlage", "European Privelage", "Pacific-Islander Privelage", etc. etc. All of these can be experienced in there own locations.

The sheer fact of the matter is you might get judged, stereotyped, harassed, praised, belittled, looked down upon, etc. etc. etc. based on your race, or then again you may not. All depends on the person(s) doing the judging. But it's gonna happen regardless.

The sooner people acknoledge these facts, and start to break away from the mold. The better off the world will be. This has nothing to do with cultures either.

Brandon, I think that was the best post in this thread so far.
I agree.

Lol @ coffee colored brown eyed skin remark. That won't happen if Timothy had a say in it.

Originally Posted by Brandon Heat

Hmmm quite a few of you have some rather skewed views on the world, however I will not mention names, seems the majority are not to sure about what the OP is about. But that sounds more like a personal problem so I won't touch on it.

Yes there is as a matter of fact "White Privelage" whether you as a person of this race acknowledges it or not doesn't really matter it's still there and is proven to exist every single day. I could list countless scenarios myself where I have experienced this, but that would just be a waste of time on my part.

There are also many other privelages as well "Black Privelage", "Asian Privelage", "Indian Privelage", "Spanish Privelage", "Middle-Eastern Priverlage", "European Privelage", "Pacific-Islander Privelage", etc. etc. All of these can be experienced in there own locations.

The sheer fact of the matter is you might get judged, stereotyped, harassed, praised, belittled, looked down upon, etc. etc. etc. based on your race, or then again you may not. All depends on the person(s) doing the judging. But it's gonna happen regardless.

The sooner people acknoledge these facts, and start to break away from the mold. The better off the world will be. This has nothing to do with cultures either.

A very insight post BH! and you're right, the author DID say most people wouldn't acknowledge it that WP exists. But as you said other [insert race here]P exists as well.

Originally Posted by Brandon Heat

Hmmm quite a few of you have some rather skewed views on the world, however I will not mention names, seems the majority are not to sure about what the OP is about. But that sounds more like a personal problem so I won't touch on it.

Everyone's view on reality is skewed. Although I suppose you must have some enlightened view...

This has nothing to do with cultures either.

You make some good points, but this is where you are wrong. People are talking about white flight, and blacks in the inner city. It's about both races striving to keep their culture. See the post above for an example.

Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox

Because it threatens diversity. Smaller cultures are changed forever or even disappear altogether - this is a real shame. I'm into linguistics, and now I know that there are about 3000-8000 languages on this world, of which thousands are on the "endangered languages list". Come on, that's a shame.
All those little things that make this big and diverse world interesting are disappearing. When I go to let's say south africa, I DON'T want to eat at McDonalds... I want something typical for that region.

Thank you. I agree with this completely. I do not agree with cultural extermination. It does not benefit communities, but those who make the money off of the disorder.

America is a special case of course; a case in which identity is not so easy to pick out. However we should wall up the borders now before it gets any crazier.

Originally Posted by Never

America is a special case of course; a case in which identity is not so easy to pick out. However we should wall up the borders now before it gets any crazier.

I wouldn't go to such an extreme as "walling up the borders" because culture changes. It's not exclusive to any race, man, woman, or child. That's why I get so perturbed when I hear things like "White culture" this" and "Black culture" that. Who the hell is supposed to tell me what culture I should belong to based on my skin tone? Perhaps I misinterpreted what you said but when I think of "walling up the borders" I envision keeping people out while a set group does their own thing.

Don't get me wrong though, I do NOT wish for cultural extermination to take place...this is why we have very little information regarding the Mayan culture. Don't even get me started on that.

Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox

What? Did I miss something? I agree with everthing BH had just said. Isn't that exactly what I said?
I feel left out.

You may have, I probably misinterpreted what you were saying. If so I apologize. It's damn near impossible to relay points without the use of vocal tonality/body language etc. (all of which are used when communicating face to face).

By extermination he doesn't mean "killing them all". He means that the things that make a culture what it is, gradually disappear.
OK, saying "white culture" etc is dumb. Let's say "American culture", "Austrian culture" etc...

Originally Posted by Jeff777

I wouldn't go to such an extreme as "walling up the borders" because culture changes. It's not exclusive to any race, man, woman, or child. That's why I get so perturbed when I hear things like "White culture" this" and "Black culture" that. Who the hell is supposed to tell me what culture I should belong to based on my skin tone? Perhaps I misinterpreted what you said but when I think of "walling up the borders" I envision keeping people out while a set group does their own thing.

Don't get me wrong though, I do NOT wish for cultural extermination to take place...this is why we have very little information regarding the Mayan culture. Don't even get me started on that.

Well it's not about skin color really, but cultural difference and the inevitable conflict that is the result. If we could all get along things might be different. There is much more to it than that, but this would be the most obvious example.

The neighboring city where I go to shop is actually a perfect example of white flight. This is going to sound like something straight from a book but bare with me please.

So, this little city is called Benton Harbor. In the 50's when my mom grew up in it, it was a very well to do town with a well respected school. Now I dont know the particulars, but some how or another many poor inner city blacks began moving there from chicago (it is only about 2 hours away). Now, there were already some blacks in Benton Harbor and they got along fine with the population, or so Im told. But when this huge influx of inner city blacks came over, the rich white and many of the black families already there, moved literally across a bridge to another very small town called St, Joseph.

Fast forward 50 years later and Benton Harbor is one of the highest per-capita murder cities in the US and the downtown looks horrendously run down. While right across this bridge there is St. Joseph all very artsy and in some respects even uppity. The schools in Benton Harbor are even so bad that many high schools around the area including my former one took it upon themselves to send buses to Benton Harbor so that parents who wanted to could send their kids out to those schools.

Just a little story I thought I'd share. I personally think it is more to due with attitude than race, because there are still some white people who live there and they are bad too. Most people never go downtown, they just go to the business area which is a little nicer at least.