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      You don't think calling us paper tigers wasn't another provocation? Be real, the terrorists won, if anyone gets a mission accomplished banner its them, they bankrupted the fucking country that was 1000 times more powerful than them. That's pretty nice handiwork.

      Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.


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      Quote Originally Posted by Omnis Dei View Post
      You don't think calling us paper tigers wasn't another provocation? Be real, the terrorists won, if anyone gets a mission accomplished banner its them, they bankrupted the fucking country that was 1000 times more powerful than them. That's pretty nice handiwork.
      No, I think he might have said the stuff about starting wars to save face. He now knows he should not have fucked with us, so he is going, "Uh, yeah, that's what I was trying to do!"

      We are not bankrupt, but if we end up that way, it will be because of the extreme pressure Democrats put on loan companies to greatly lower their standards and the insane bailouts that are happening now. Obama wants a $1 trillion stimulus package that could put us under for a very long time. That is the real economic threat.

      What we have done in the Middle East is take the Taliban and the Hussein regime out of power and replace them with democracies. That is Bin Laden's worst nightmare. He practically thinks democracy is Satan himself. When the Middle East eventually becomes advanced enough to be beyond its current existence as a nesting bed for backward ass terrorists, Bin Laden will have officially lost once and for all. As it is now, he is merely getting his ass kicked in. I don't think he is living a happy life. Things will only get worse for him from here on out.
      You are dreaming right now.

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      The US has been bankrupt for years. All the wars helped in that way, but it would of happened anyway. Our government is not responsible with money, in any way at all.

      Some people will keep denying it up until we end up creating a new currency because the dollar has become worthless.

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      The bailout is the only thing to stop the economy from collapsing. The american people have to save the industries because... they're fucking bankrupt.

      But sure blame the democrats, even though historically it's always been republicans that cause economy deficits and democrats that get us out.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Omnis Dei View Post
      The bailout is the only thing to stop the economy from collapsing.
      You have it ass backwards, actually. The bailouts are fascistic and are what fundamentally cause a cancerous economy. Think about it: who are the ones saying that the economy needs more "regulation" and "government help"? The politicians. Who benefits the most from a fascist economy? The politicians, and their patsies in industry.

      I really don't want to commit reductio ad hitlerum here, but it applies. The exact same rhetoric being spouted by our politicians today was said by Hitler in the early 30s, and we all know how that bailout turned out.

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      The bailouts only make things worse. The economy is doing bad so what do we do? We spend even more money that we don't have! Here is a question for you. How do you dig yourself out of debt by spending money?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Alric View Post
      The bailouts only make things worse. The economy is doing bad so what do we do? We spend even more money that we don't have! Here is a question for you. How do you dig yourself out of debt by spending money?
      Invest in the next generation..?

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      Quote Originally Posted by O'nus View Post
      Invest in the next generation..?

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      I sure hope that was a joke.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Alric View Post
      The bailouts only make things worse. The economy is doing bad so what do we do? We spend even more money that we don't have! Here is a question for you. How do you dig yourself out of debt by spending money?
      I totally agree with you on that. We need to cut spending big time and lower taxes big time. Then people will start buying stuff like crazy, and THAT is what stimulates an economy. Raising taxes leads to the buying of less, which inhibits an economy. I am absolutely terrified of what Obama might be about to do to our economy. I actually wonder if this country will even exist in ten years.

      And fuck the Republican party for abandoning real conservatism.
      You are dreaming right now.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      Raising taxes leads to the buying of less, which inhibits an economy.
      What of raising the taxes of higher income brackets and moderating the lower?

      As I said, even Bill O'Reilly agreed to this. But what about you?

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