Thread: Do people really think like this?

Originally Posted by Merlock

And you would know this because you know exactly how everyone thinks and know the precise reasons for why people hate such abominations?

I know this because I am a licensed mental health clinician with decades of practice.
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Abomination = a vile, shameful act.

Shameful acts =HATEFUL WORDS that injure others and have no positive purpose. Therefore an abomination=hateful words.

What is to hate about someone feeling like that should have been born a different gender? What is to hate about someone feeling like they want to dress in a different gender’s clothing? What is so scary about this? Nothing.
This is an irrational fear.

If you just HAVE to hate things, use this emotion constructively. Please seek out dangerous and scary things to hate.

Originally Posted by Liz

I know this because I am a licensed mental health clinician with decades of practice.
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Abomination = a vile, shameful act.

Shameful acts =HATEFUL WORDS that injure others and have no positive purpose. Therefore an abomination=hateful words.

What is to hate about someone feeling like that should have been born a different gender? What is to hate about someone feeling like they want to dress in a different gender’s clothing? What is so scary about this? Nothing.
This is an irrational fear.

If you just HAVE to hate things, use this emotion constructively. Please seek out dangerous and scary things to hate.

I'm sorry, but that's utter hippie/Buddhist talk.
I'm hurting people, "boo-hoo".
Conflict is perfectly sensible as long as there is good reason for it.

Also, you still seem to be under the impression that "hate" and "fear" are synonyms.

Furthermore, questions like "what is there to hate about <whatever>?" will not be answered because, like I already said, it's personal. No one owes you explanations of their inner selves, their desires and fears, likes and dislikes, experiences and reasons for acting. You can either fight someone if you oppose their stance, join them if you support it or just ignore them if you don't care. Trying to "reason" against opposing idealism is useless.

As for being "licensed", being a doctor or any such...that means nothing.
It is impossible to know anything about anyone's true inner self.
All psychology and various sciences relating to behaviour are full of nothing but assumptions.

You assume someone does something for an assumed reason.
You know nothing for a fact, as it isn't yourself you are trying to analyse.
Another's mind cannot be viewed like a computer record or phenomenon of nature.

Someone can become your friend and make you 100% certain for dozens of years that they are your closest most trusted partner or vice-versa, you can assume an enemy is 100% wrong for whatever reasons...only for said friend/enemy to one day turn around and completely change, saying it was all an act.

But aye, now I'm just ranting.
My point was: don't assume to know why someone does something.
Take their actions at face value.

Originally Posted by Merlock

Conflict is perfectly sensible as long as there is good reason for it.

Please tell us what IS the "good reason" to hate transgendered people.
You keep telling us that you don't want to reveal this "good reason" so I am left to assume that:

A. you hate almost everything including yourself
B. you are not comfortable with aspects of your own gender
C. you have bought into a hate-promoting, religious ideology which is practiced in defiance of God saying, "Love one another."

Originally Posted by Liz

Please tell us what IS the "good reason" to hate transgendered people.

You can assume all you want, but that won't make you right, and won't make me explain anything.
If you dislike what I stand for, I'm your enemy, it's that simple.
No explanations needed. Face value. Etc.

The modern world is drowning in a sea of apathy and lack of ideals and principles.
Striving for the great and "wonderful" World Peace!
World peace would be the most terrifying thing to ever happen to this world.

Five points to anyone who gets the reference:



And the funny thing is, all this peace-talking arguing is still the same as conflict: trying to inflict your will upon others. Which is natural, sensible and strong. Except arguments against idealism aren't strength but uselessness. You have to fight for what you want, not sit there demanding unlimited tolerance or "peace".

You're only thinking in extremes here. It is possible to allow people to have more rights without turning it into ulimited tolerance and world peace.

There will always be someone opposed to it.
Factions are formed because of this.
Or do you think that just because the government says it's legal, everyone will just instantly grow to like something they previously hated?

Demon,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcUZzyhtUrY

http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.n...256A1000122122

Oh yes, and Exhalent, you can't just say that you're transgendered to give a criminal a more harsh punishment. You have to be able to prove that they committed a crime in the first place because of your gender identity/sexual orientation.

Also, if a man kills his wife out of rage because she had an affair, and another man kills his wife because she's a woman, which one do you think is more dangerous?

Originally Posted by Liz

Demon,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcUZzyhtUrY

http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.n...256A1000122122

You called Merlock 'Demon' and then you go and post a Red Hot Chili Peppers song?

The hypocrisy knows no bounds.

You might be a 'licensed mental health clinician with decades of practice' but I'll wager you don't know damn thing about what makes me tick or what my buttons are. You might as well be a politician or a professional video gamer if you're going to claim you understand our minds.

Originally Posted by Merlock

Conflict is perfectly sensible as long as there is good reason for it.

Originally Posted by Merlock

You can assume all you want, but that won't make you right, and won't make me explain anything.
If you dislike what I stand for, I'm your enemy, it's that simple.
No explanations needed. Face value. Etc.

So you're basically saying that conflict is fine as long as there's a good reason, but people shouldn't have to tell anyone what that good reason is. Then they might as well not have a good reason.

Besides, what's the point of discussing something if you refuse to give reasons for what you're saying? You won't convince anyone that way.

For example:
"I hate Pokemon! It should be banned from everything!"
"What's wrong with Pokemon?"
"I don't have to explain my reasons to anyone!!!"
"..........."