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      Oh yes, and Exhalent, you can't just say that you're transgendered to give a criminal a more harsh punishment. You have to be able to prove that they committed a crime in the first place because of your gender identity/sexual orientation.

      Also, if a man kills his wife out of rage because she had an affair, and another man kills his wife because she's a woman, which one do you think is more dangerous?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Demon Parasite View Post
      Oh yes, and Exhalent, you can't just say that you're transgendered to give a criminal a more harsh punishment.
      Where did this come from? What I was saying is that these new laws in effect can be abused. My point is, no special groups should ever be covered in said "hate crime" laws, because by law they are already equal to everyone else. It just disrupts the system and causes overcomplication.
      Last edited by Exhalent; 08-24-2009 at 04:38 AM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Exhalent View Post
      Where did this come from? What I was saying is that these new laws in effect can be abused. My point is, no special groups should ever be covered in said "hate crime" laws, because by law they are already equal to everyone else. It just disrupts the system and causes overcomplication.
      You were saying that the law could be abused by you pretending to be gay or trans to add to your case. You can't do that, though.

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      Why can't I dislike a person that is gay/trans, but for reasons other than that? The jury doesn't have to take my word for it. Just like if a white and a black person fought (respectively), it would be hate crime even if race had nothing to do with it. I still see no legitimate reason for laws like these since everyone is already covered, otherwise I would change my mind.

      Social, not judicial
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      You called Merlock 'Demon' and then you go and post a Red Hot Chili Peppers song?

      The hypocrisy knows no bounds.

      You might be a 'licensed mental health clinician with decades of practice' but I'll wager you don't know damn thing about what makes me tick or what my buttons are. You might as well be a politician or a professional video gamer if you're going to claim you understand our minds.
      Now the whole world stands on the brink, staring down into bloody hell, all those liberals and intellectuals and smooth-talkers...

      We should have done this as men. Not with fire.

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      Careful there!

      Clearly you didn't notice that someone called Demon Parasite is also posting in this thread. Next time maybe be a bit more careful .

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      Quote Originally Posted by ifuturist View Post
      You called Merlock 'Demon' and then you go and post a Red Hot Chili Peppers song?

      The hypocrisy knows no bounds.

      You might be a 'licensed mental health clinician with decades of practice' but I'll wager you don't know damn thing about what makes me tick or what my buttons are. You might as well be a politician or a professional video gamer if you're going to claim you understand our minds.
      Uh, "Demon" short for "Demon Parasite", my username.

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      lol.

      and that guy isnt even here for the lucid dreaming. he has never posted in the lucid dreaming section at all. he must have registered to say something about something, im assuming the "should marijuana be legal" thread, that is the one he has posted in most.

      but on the subject of this thread, i hate homophobics (am i alright to use that word lol)

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      Quote Originally Posted by slash112 View Post
      lol.

      and that guy isnt even here for the lucid dreaming. he has never posted in the lucid dreaming section at all. he must have registered to say something about something, im assuming the "should marijuana be legal" thread, that is the one he has posted in most.

      but on the subject of this thread, i hate homophobics (am i alright to use that word lol)
      Apparently he lurked enough to know Liz's profession, but not not my name, lol.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ifuturist View Post
      You called Merlock 'Demon' and then you go and post a Red Hot Chili Peppers song?

      The hypocrisy knows no bounds.
      This part made me lul. I wish he would stick around. He's funny.
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