Thread: LSD explained for what it is.

Originally Posted by dajo

My 2 Cents:

It is important that people, who do them, know what they're doing. And
are mature and in a good place in their life, feel comfortable with themself.
Psychedelics are a powerful tool, but if used irresponsibly, or too early, can
really screw things up. Looking at the bigger picture, I think someone, who
uses psychedelics should be thoughtful and respectful of them - because if
he/she isn't, it distorts the public opinion, of what they're really all about. I
think this is more damaging than all the anti-drug propaganda you can buy.

And with a certain level of maturity, I also mean that a sixteen-year old should
notice that it is better to wait a few years and be garanteed a life-enhancing
experience, rather than risk psychological (not so much neurological) damage.

So in my opinion, everyone, who holds an interest in or uses psychedelics
holds a responsibility to do so intelligently and to (if at all) reflect just that
into the world - in our case the dreamviews forum.

Hmm, so you think I should wait up on the LSD? It's weak, but still potent.

I've already done Salvia and Shrooms. And I'm doing DMT reguardless. It's too late, I already bought it

What's y'alls opinion on me doing acid? Should I wait till my body and mind are fully developed? At like 19'ish and up?

I haven't done DMT, so I can't compare.

You are the one that has to decide in the end, if it's the right time or not.
But I would generally say it is safer to wait, yes, maybe until you're 19ish.
Body and mind should be fully developed, you don't want to get in the way
of that. But age depends on the individual.

Considering that at yours (I read somewherer 16/17 if I remember
correctly) you have already done shrooms and salvia and are in posession
of dmt, as well as planning on doing acid in the next three weeks, it shows
to me that you should take a step back. It is not a race to the top!

Originally Posted by dajo

I haven't done DMT, so I can't compare.

You are the one that has to decide in the end, if it's the right time or not.
But I would generally say it is safer to wait, yes, maybe until you're 19ish.
Body and mind should be fully developed, you don't want to get in the way
of that. But age depends on the individual.

Considering that at yours (I read somewherer 16/17 if I remember
correctly) you have already done shrooms and salvia and are in posession
of dmt, as well as planning on doing acid in the next three weeks, it shows
to me that you should take a step back. It is not a race to the top!

Indeed. Psychedelics and haste do not mix.
However if you've done Salvia and Mushrooms and managed those experiences well, then a small dose of LSD really isn't that much of a step further if you know what I mean.

Just don't ever take LSD lightly. Never consume large doses for your first time. Of anything. Don't you take DMT lightly either. A sufficient dose of DMT makes LSD seem like a walk in the park ^^
I remember on the Drug forum reading a comparison between LSD and DMT I very much agree with. Someone said: "Where LSD is like riding a Bicycle, DMT is more like riding a Scudmisile into a black hole." Great description.

Allthough taking high doses of LSD or DMT for your first time might deliver an experience you find terrifying, I do reckon that taking really low doses of them are very unlikely to produce experiences so intense that you find them disturbing. Start with VERY low doses. So low they aren't even likely to be effective. And then VERY gradually increase the dose until a desirable effect is attained.

For good objective information about LSD and DMT(as well as allmost ANY drug known to man), unlike folkloric/urban myths, inquire www.erowid.org

Well I was going to take very low doses of acid. I'm getting 2 hits. 1 should be enough to see visuals and maybe trip. But since I don't actually know the potency, I was going to take the first one and split it in 4ths. And take all 4 separately. Then, I will have a feel for how potent it is.

And as for the DMT, I can't really start with a low dose, because I only have enough for 1 blast off. I could maybe split it up into smoking 1/4. Then smoking the other 3/4's.

I can provide pictures next Wednesday. Maybe someone could eye it. But I'm also getting a scale this weekend, but I doubt it goes as low as how much the DMT will weigh.

Originally Posted by Motumz

Well I was going to take very low doses of acid. I'm getting 2 hits. 1 should be enough to see visuals and maybe trip. But since I don't actually know the potency, I was going to take the first one and split it in 4ths. And take all 4 separately. Then, I will have a feel for how potent it is.

And as for the DMT, I can't really start with a low dose, because I only have enough for 1 blast off. I could maybe split it up into smoking 1/4. Then smoking the other 3/4's.

I can provide pictures next Wednesday. Maybe someone could eye it. But I'm also getting a scale this weekend, but I doubt it goes as low as how much the DMT will weigh.

every time ive taken 1 hit of acid its always been a really mild trip with little to no visuals, so id suggest since you dont know the potency of the acid, take one, see how it makes you feel and if you think you can handel more take the other one, and youll pretty much have the best time ever.

as for dmt, smoke it all at once and blast off. i think its a waste if you only do a little bit and dont breakthrough.

Originally Posted by JamesLD

every time ive taken 1 hit of acid its always been a really mild trip with little to no visuals, so id suggest since you dont know the potency of the acid, take one, see how it makes you feel and if you think you can handel more take the other one, and youll pretty much have the best time ever.

as for dmt, smoke it all at once and blast off. i think its a waste if you only do a little bit and dont breakthrough.

That's what I was thinking. But I want to smoke it just right, so any tips? How did you smoke it with success?

I already have a lot of info on it, but I want your techniques..


And you got no visuals with acid and just a mild trip? Eh, I kinda don't want to take it now. I just want visuals, and no trip. Even if I hallucinate hardcore. I'll trip later when I'm older I guess. I just want to experience visuals with a clear mindset, and not trippin'.

When we say "1 hit" of acid, we do mean 1 blotter tab don't we? Just wanna clear things up.

I've allways taken blotters, except for my first LSD trip when I took liquid mixed with water.

Speaking of blotter tabs: I've had various strength acid tabs, but most average acid takes only 1 tab to produce quite an intense, deep experience. If you take one and are not tripping your face off then it is obviously weak LSD.

But let's assume it is powerfull LSD; then 1 tab is 1 trip. Half a tab is still quite a trip, but alot less intense and alot more sober.

Never take more than 1 blotter tab at once. It may be a bummer to not trip as hard as you aimed for, or not at all, but it might just suck a whole lot more if you take too much.

Originally Posted by Motumz

That's what I was thinking. But I want to smoke it just right, so any tips? How did you smoke it with success?

I already have a lot of info on it, but I want your techniques..


And you got no visuals with acid and just a mild trip? Eh, I kinda don't want to take it now. I just want visuals, and no trip. Even if I hallucinate hardcore. I'll trip later when I'm older I guess. I just want to experience visuals with a clear mindset, and not trippin'.

they say the best way to smoke dmt is to vaporize it using a crack/meth style pipe.

and im sorry but i am not aware of being able to take acid and get visuals and not trip, it goes hand in hand. Ska, you seem experienced, correct me if im wrong

Originally Posted by Motumz

Hmm, so you think I should wait up on the LSD? It's weak, but still potent.

I've already done Salvia and Shrooms. And I'm doing DMT reguardless. It's too late, I already bought it

What's y'alls opinion on me doing acid? Should I wait till my body and mind are fully developed? At like 19'ish and up?

IMO, do acid before you do dmt. DMT is out of this world. acid is great you have nothing to worry about, and it will deffinetly help prepare you for the dmt trip.

BTW, how much did you get the dmt for?

Originally Posted by JamesLD

IMO, do acid before you do dmt. DMT is out of this world. acid is great you have nothing to worry about, and it will deffinetly help prepare you for the dmt trip.

BTW, how much did you get the dmt for?

I don't know if I agree with this. From what I have read, which is extensive, DMT is like nothing you will ever experience on any other drug. The closest drug though is apparently shrooms. But that's using close loosely.

So IMO I think it would be fine to try a small hit of DMT first just to get a feel for it's effects and then work up to a breakthrough.

I don't know why, but I see this contradiction all the time. "DMT is like no other psychedelic" "try acid first though".

Doesn't make much sense to me....

Also Motumz, do NOT. EVER. take the dealers word as gospel. They are mostly scum. "Weak" is objective, he could take acid everyday for all you know and therefore he thinks it is weak, whereas for a first timer it could be incredibly potent. Or he could just be flat out lying.

Anyway, take care. And remember, set, setting, dosage, sitter.

Originally Posted by tommo

I don't know why, but I see this contradiction all the time. "DMT is like no other psychedelic" "try acid first though".

Doesn't make much sense to me....

how does this not make sense? say a person has never taken psychedelic, and there interested in dmt, would you suggest they try dmt first?? thats a little crazy, thats why i would suggest trying other psychedelics first so you get an idea of what the psychedelic experience is like.

Originally Posted by tommo

I don't know why, but I see this contradiction all the time. "DMT is like no other psychedelic" "try acid first though".

Doesn't make much sense to me....

The experience you get from LSD is a good stepping stone to DMT, that's all. It's like this. Someone who has done nothing will not be able to even properly conceptualize what the DMT experience is. Someone who has taken LSD can at least imagine the experience even if the actual experience is not very similar to what they imagined. From what I know, I would suggest also becoming familiar with Salvia before experimenting with DMT.

I guess we agree Xaqaria.

My personal stepping stones (in chronological order)were:
Marijuana, Mushrooms (over abt. 15 experiences), 3 Hawaiian Baby WoodRose seeds(containing LSA), LSD( abt. 10 experiences) then DMT, then Ayahuasca.

What the psychedelics I did before I did DMT and Ayahuasca have taught me was a sort of "framework" in which to manage and interpret such experiences. Most valuable lessons were:

-Let whatever is, be. Don't resist. Don't seek to control the experience Ride it out. Accept everything; both negative and positive.
-Have faith in the healing & teaching nature of whatever it is you're ingesting. Otherwise you shouldn't be taking it.
- If negative thoughts, feelings, perceptions..etc arise, don't freak out. Remain calm and regard them as teachers and pay close attention.
- Detatch yourself from a 1st person perspective where it seems that everything is happening to "You". Instead see yourself in 3d person, like just another human being having just another human experience. This detatchment(from the ego) makes for a far calmer, clearer and observant perspective.

Ahh, you've taken LSA. That is the only psychedelic I've ever done. The friends who gave it to me were incredibly irresponsible, and I was young and dumb. I took 6 seeds at their suggestion...then a couple hours later, when I thought I couldn't feel it (even though I was actually starting to trip pretty hard), I asked if I could take some more. They said sure, told me to take 2...and because I was already half gone, I decided to take 4.

It didn't help that the atmosphere was a beat up apartment inhabited by a schizophrenic psychopath obsessed with serial killers (and who fit the profile of one himself) and his clinically depressed boyfriend.

Worst day/night of my entire life. Caused some psychological damage, too. I'm so glad I don't hang out with them anymore. Never would have in the first place if they weren't "close" friends of my roommate at the time.

I don't blame the drug, though. I'm sure if I had been responsible about it things would have gone much better.

Yeah the enviroment in which you undergo Entheogenesis is VERY influential.

I took ayahuasca with the Santo Daime members in their church. It was a really healing ritual. Their chanting gave me the courage to face and overcome the darkness/fear/anger I was meaning to rinse out of myself.

Had I done this in a cluttered squad-building full of smelly, confused, irresponsible people I don't even dare to think of how that might have affected me.

Instead, by taking Ayahuasca in ceremonial setting with strong, responsible and knowledgable people, it was a true blessing. I was truely able to take a HUGE burdain off of my shoulders, encouraged by so much love, strength and chanting.