I believe in "evil" (or Satanic in orgin; Satanic being Opposed to God). |
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So, do you believe evil is a real, tangeble and definable thing? Or is it constantly changing? Is evil in everyone? What do you think? |
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I believe in "evil" (or Satanic in orgin; Satanic being Opposed to God). |
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to me, evil does not exist under its own power - there is none in nature. |
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I'm not sure exactly how to express what I feel about the idea of "evil." I'm still thinking about it. |
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Ignorant bliss is an oxymoron; but so is miserable truth.
That which creates excessive harm for the sole purpose of self amusement, no other justification needed. |
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that couldn't be a genetic defect? |
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Ignorant bliss is an oxymoron; but so is miserable truth.
Evil doesn't exist. It's just a dualistic opposite of Good, both are equally meaningless as they rely on each other to define themselves. |
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It's all completely relative. What may be considered "good" in one culture (human sacrifice, for example) would be considered "evil" in another. It's all relative...so no, "evil" is not a physical or tangible force in this world. Without memes, the concept of "evil" would not exist. |
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No, not nice. If the definitions are truly empty then how come we can unambiguously assign 'good' to the act of say, donating a kidney to a child who would die without it, and assign 'bad' to the act of shooting a child in the head? |
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“The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.” - Albert Einstein
Evil is something preventable done to another's detriment. That's simutaneously as simple and as far as it goes. |
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No. The act must be done purely for the sake of enjoyment for the one causing the harm. |
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Interesting. You believe that an individual should choose to reap their |
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There is no such thing as evil. A harmful act is without any exception inadvertent. If a person was liberated of any fear and completely sane, they wouldn't have the urge to do harm. That urge is actually self-defense, even in a deep subconscious level. Sadistic acts, however, are a consequence of the lack of knowledge, lack of empathy, probably due to bad parenting or experienced traumas. Again, inadvertent. |
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Come on! What if Martin Luther King said: "I kinda have a dream... nah, I don't wanna talk about it."
In my opinion, no one of sound mind is capable of committing evil, only unfortunate circumstances brought on by other unfortunate circumstances. |
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I believe in the evil that is a direct result of human evolution and our desire to survive as a species. Thus the killing of innocents is evil, because if this was accepted it would severally damage our chances of survival. What is a great concern for me is the way our culture has manipulated this idea of good and bad to control the populace. Smoking weed is bad, stealing is generically bad, when in many cases that's simply not the case. I accept an evolutionary view of evil and understand the necessity to instil norms and values into the population, I just find it worrying that a number of these norms and values serve no purpose accept control and assimilation. |
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"...You want to reclaim your mind and get it out of the hands of the cultural engineers who want to turn you into a half-baked moron consuming all this trash that's being manufactured out of the bones of a dying world..." - Terence McKenna
Previously known as imran_p
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"...You want to reclaim your mind and get it out of the hands of the cultural engineers who want to turn you into a half-baked moron consuming all this trash that's being manufactured out of the bones of a dying world..." - Terence McKenna
Previously known as imran_p
I honestly don't see what exactly do you disagree on? Like I said, the urge to do harm is not evil, there is no evil. It is psychological self-defense. You are mentioning animals, I'm pretty sure that is not a good example, but again - nothing evil there, simply inadvertent of doing harm to other being. |
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Come on! What if Martin Luther King said: "I kinda have a dream... nah, I don't wanna talk about it."
I don't believe this (adding to mini0991). I think it's when you, in some sense knowingly, harm another in order to benefit yourself somehow (when you could've prevented this). This benefit is not necessarily caused by the enjoyment of harming the other itself. For example, maybe you don't enjoy harming someone, but you choose to harm that person anyway because it's necessary to get something that fulfills some of your selfish desires. For example robbing someone because you're poor and you really need the money, despite knowing that you may harm (by scaring for instance or by physical and emotional violence) the person you're robbing. |
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Last edited by Koalaman; 12-10-2009 at 08:17 PM.
My main source of disagreement was that the desire to do harm is some sort of malfunction if you will. That if a person was liberated from fear and was sane as you out it, wouldn't desire to do harm and that the act of doing harm is born from psychological self defence. This simply isn't true. A lot of people are born with a deep desire to kill and harm. This stems from a number of developments in our evolutionary history in which among other things passionate hatred of foreigners and a strong prey drive would have been a selective advantage. |
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"...You want to reclaim your mind and get it out of the hands of the cultural engineers who want to turn you into a half-baked moron consuming all this trash that's being manufactured out of the bones of a dying world..." - Terence McKenna
Previously known as imran_p
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