Thread: Project Sanctuary and Dream recall

I read the entire book and Ive had no success so far trying to get into my sanctuary. Quick question, how do we know the sanctuary isn't just a WILD?

Originally Posted by Suicideking

I read the entire book and Ive had no success so far trying to get into my sanctuary. Quick question, how do we know the sanctuary isn't just a WILD?

I'm not sure. What I do, is just close my eyes, make sure there's no distractions, and walk around mine. But it's more like fantasizing. It took me awhile to get it to first-person, but I managed. At first it was really hard to concentrate on all of my senses but it's getting easier now, which makes it feel more real. When I really "get in the zone" it can actually feel pretty real. But it's kind of like a non-lucid. It feels real when you're there, but when you wake (or open your eyes in my case) it feels like a dream.

So, I'm still not sure.

Hmm, this thread slipped a lot farther than I thought! I hope people are okay with me bringing it back.

I woke up a little early this morning, and wasn't able to get back to sleep despite trying for an hour. I wasn't that tired anyway, and I noticed that my imagination was a little more vivid than usual. So, I figured it'd be the perfect time to try Project Sanctuary.

This one will require a bit of backstory... suffice to say, a friend of mine has his own fascinating experiences of the same fashion, though quite different, from WakingNomad's "Dream Plane". He calls it simply Dreamworld. I've been kinda yearning to see if this stuff is for real or not, but without personal experience it seems impossible... (Sorry for dragging Beyond Dreaming stuff into here, it's relevant, I promise!)

Without further ado...

Spoiler for Long story:

So… I am laying on my side, resting. I have spent an hour trying to get back to sleep, with little success. But I’m relaxed, not annoyed, since I’m not that tired anyway. I notice my imagination is a bit more active than usual, so I decide to try Project Sanctuary. It’s been a while.

I call up my energy mind and firstly, apologize to it for not paying more attention to it. I “give it a hug” (silly, I know, but it seemed necessary ) and then tell it that if it seems like I’m neglecting it in the future, to tell me in no uncertain terms! The niceties out of the way, I try to set up the game with the simplest contract. I simply tell my energy mind to take me where it wishes, and to show me what it deems to be most important.

I wait a few moments for a scene to form, but… nothing. I seem to be floating in the void. I try calling out to see if anyone can hear me. I get a couple annoyed responses along the lines of “shut up” or “You’re being annoying!” Now the scene materializes, and I see that I’m in a stereotypical jail cell. The annoyed responses were from guards doing their rounds around the prison. I look about the cell that I’m in. Four messy bunks, a nasty toilet, some junk strewn around… but I seem to be the only inmate in this cell. I ruffle through some of the junk on one of the bunks and find a huge file. Not coming up with any better ideas, I begin to file down the bars on the jail cell window. This gets me absolutely nowhere, of course, and brings the guards to my cell. They order me to hand over the file, to which I respond with a curt “no.” Then they ask me to come with them, and I start to say “no” to that too—but they drag me out of the cell and down the hall.

They bring me to a woman who seems to have some power in the prison. Perhaps she runs it, but she is wearing rather regal clothing. In any case, she looks at me and says, “Is it true that you tried to escape the prison?”

“Well, er… yes,” I respond, looking down at the floor. “But, I have to know… why did I get sent here in the first place?”

She looks at me, clearly shocked. “You mean… you don’t remember?” I shake my head. “Well… you came to us. You told us to keep you in here, said it was too dangerous or scary outside. We were pretty surprised of course, but we let you stay. You’ve been pretty well-behaved for the most part.”

At this point I know exactly what this prison is a metaphor for. “Well, what if I want to leave now?”

“I’m not so sure that’s a good idea. You came in here for a reason in the first place, and you should make sure you’re ready to face it before you leave. You may feel you’re ready—you’re certainly eager—but I think you need more time. Remember the nightmare you had last week? Remember your anger with N., and T.? You need to learn to temper yourself, to remain calm in the face of conflict, and to avoid becoming overwhelmed.”

I know that I’ve been doing better in those areas, but I also know she’s probably right. It hurts though, to see these things seem just out of my grasp. I change the subject. “Well, when did I come here, anyway?”

“I don’t exactly remember,” she says. “It was many years ago. Perhaps before you were born. But the important thing to remember is that, you can’t recall any of this sense of fear. Whatever may have haunted your childhood and prompted you to come here… is completely gone from your memory. When you think about that, the exact date doesn’t matter. You may as well have been here your entire life.”

“Could there really have been something like that in my childhood?” I ask.

“Well, look at it this way. As a childhood, you were hypersensitive to certain sounds, touches, and textures. To a certain extent, you still are today. It’s not much of a stretch to think that you were once hypersensitive to… other things.”

I nod a bit. “What I still don’t understand is how A. says I sometimes find my way over to dreamworld, even though I can never remember it…”

There’s a pause here, as I’m trying to make sure the response doesn’t come from within myself. (With limited success, I’m sure…) She ends up saying, “Look, I don’t know. Why would I know something like that? Clearly something within you isn’t fully comfortable with the idea, despite your obvious yearnings. …You know how you always tell Andy that you feel like you’re ‘on the outside, looking in’? I would argue that it is just the opposite. You are on the inside, looking out. These things you yearn for might be experienced within the mind, but they obviously come from outside yourself. You have to be willing to venture out there.”

Around this point I lose my grasp on the scene, and decide to hop into the shower.

I wish I'd written this down right away, I know I butchered a lot of the dialogue. I got the important bits across though. And no, I'm not looking for agreement or interpretations on the story, I just thought it was interesting, and wanted to share. I don't know how "real" it was though. I mean, I'm pretty sure I just ended up talking to myself. (Which, I guess, is part of the point... but you know what I mean! ) If "I" (I being the conscious mind) make up both sides of the conversation, it's hard to see new insights...

I know what you mean.

I kinda stopped PS. I dunno... Whilest reading the ebooks, she told a load of stories, and things to do and how it helps. But she never actually said how to do it. I don't know whether it's just visualisation taken to an extreme level.

It did help my visualisation skills, but I was just so confused that I kinda unconsciously abandoned it.

Another thing was how she was like "you may find junk and have to clear it away" when mine was made by me, so it was all nice etc.

Nice experience you had there though

Thanks. xD

I think the main thing I noticed so far is that things go more smoothly the less I try to take control of them. If I specifically want an experience in "my sanctuary", then it feels like I'm controlling everything and don't really get anywhere. If I just state a contract of "show me what you think is important" then things tend to go better. I still think I end up taking control of most of it, but I don't consciously think of the setting I end up in... so it's a start, right?

A large part of it is just extreme visualization, though I'm not sure that's all. But since my visualizing skills are so bad, it both makes things tougher, but also gives me a reason to keep trying. If nothing else, I'll get better at visualizing from trying to do this.

I agree with raspberry, the ebook was great if i'd already knew how to do it. It's like reading those magizene walkthroughs for a video game but you don't even own the game. That's kinda what I feel like I'm doing when I read it, then when I finally get to the actuall doing it part, she doesn't even spend that much time on it, and there isn't even music or walkthroughs to help. I tried it once but it just felt like another meditation session. So unless one of you guys has a good method for beginners, its back to dreams for me.

It's... kinda hard to explain, I guess. I experience it like a daydream, basically, only a bit more vivid since I'm giving it my full attention. I don't get these "threshold shifts" or breakthroughs myself so there's a good chance I'm doing it wrong, anyway. It's still interesting enough to keep at it though, for me at least. Sorry I can't be more helpful. =/

Her "Genius Symbols" thing is a bit more direct, with stuff like, "Look at these symbols in this order, this is what they mean, dwell on each one", stuff like that. I haven't tried it myself though. I can send it along to anyone who asks me.

Thanks Singularity. I still feel as though she's just really good at visualisation though. I'm quite good myself, my biggest obstical was visualising in 1st person, through my eyes as before I always saw myself from a far point perspective. Visualisation has been the method of how I get to sleep for as long as I can remember. When I was a kid, I used to suck my thumb too to get myself to sleep. My visualisation became so good it was almost real-like. Like I was directing a movie (I wasn't in it. They were mostly spyro dreams). I stopped sucking my thumb so that I wouldn't sleep so quickly.

But I still think it is a nice thing to do. Get familiar with a good visualised place that makes you feel safe. I originally picked Lake Hylia from Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess, because when I play the game I think it's beautiful, fun and friendly looking. Plus I love the music.

But instead I let the desert scene come to me. But I felt torn. I think that I'll stick to visualisation, but add a meditive tone to it. Maybe I'll get more from it. I know she says that it's something to be experienced to know what it is, but when you don't even know HOW it becomes quite tricky

Could u send me those singularity? And maybe you can acsess your sanctuary by going there in a LD, that'd be a good method.

hey guys! I need a copy of project sanctuary 3. Would anyone please be kind enough to email me a copy?

3? Is there a third one?

Sent you a PM, Shimul.

Raspberry: No, but it's in its 3rd revision, hence V3. It's been that way for quite a while now, though, so if you have any copy from at least the past year, maybe more, you're all set.

Originally Posted by Singularity125

Sent you a PM, Shimul.

Raspberry: No, but it's in its 3rd revision, hence V3. It's been that way for quite a while now, though, so if you have any copy from at least the past year, maybe more, you're all set.

Por favor?