How Lucid Dreaming still not an desire of every human bean?

**lschievenin** · 08-21-2010 02:12 AM

Would just like to know your opinions about it..
Lucid dreaming is not just awesome, for experiences and exploring yourself, it is also a very useful thing when you want to get over your fears, and stuff.

I mean.
Everyone always talk about how they would love to do what they wanted and how they wanted in real life.

Kick their boss ass, have sex with Angelina Jolie, Fly, Interact with creatures from other planet.. and in LDs you can do it!

Why Lucid Dream still not a popular thing?
It exists for ages now, and its surely going to grow up, but how such an incredible and holy (yes, holy, i believe it is like a spiritual thing too) thing is not popular, and a desire of everyone one?
(sorry for my english)

**MrsLost** · 08-21-2010 02:14 AM

I just want to know if you are serious about "human BEAN".......?

**lschievenin** · 08-21-2010 02:15 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Sorry about it
as i said, sorry for my english

But please dont stay on this discussion
back to the topic

**MrsLost** · 08-21-2010 02:20 AM

lol, ok thanks for taking it so lightheartedly and not as a personal insult. LOL

As far as the original topic. I would say a lot of the people that I talk to who seem to object to the idea of Lucid dreaming object because they are afraid of it. Usually it's a religious thing honestly. Some people seem to think that it is ungodly or messes with nature or something. Some just don't view it as appropriate or understand what the desire is to do it. Shrug

**OldNutter** · 08-21-2010 02:24 AM

Another reason might be because people get discouraged so damned easy. People Try it for one night, can;t get it, and say f*** it. I believe that's the biggest roadblock.

**lschievenin** · 08-21-2010 02:25 AM

Originally Posted by MrsLost

As far as the original topic. I would say a lot of the people that I talk to who seem to object to the idea of Lucid dreaming object because they are afraid of it. Usually it's a religious thing honestly. Some people seem to think that it is ungodly or messes with nature or something. Some just don't view it as appropriate or understand what the desire is to do it. Shrug

With older people i observed this religious thing too.
my parents, uncles, and older cousins said the same thing.. they were afraid that your spirit leaves your body in LDs and make your body free for a new and evil soul.
Actually im afraid of it too, but not in LDs but in OBEs..

Originally Posted by OldSparta

Another reason might be because people get discouraged so damned easy. People Try it for one night, can;t get it, and say f*** it. I believe that's the biggest roadblock.

but my friends that are young and open minded were very excited about it, and 2 of them sticked with the practice for like 3 weeks, both had LDs in the first week, but they are lazy.
I think that this is the problem for the youngers, and the religious thing is the problem for the older people..

**MrsLost** · 08-21-2010 02:26 AM

I was definitely going to mention that as well, until I ran with the other idea and forgot, lol.

Even I can be an example of it. It definitely affects my interest in it when I can't do it easily. not that I expect anything in life to come easily, but that's just the thing, I have other things in life that don't come easy that may be more important in the immediate way of this world. Unfortunate things like finances etc for my family and their well-being. Ya know?

**jasonresno** · 08-21-2010 02:28 AM

Nobody has ambition. Nobody wants to put effort towards anything unless they see immediate results.

**MrsLost** · 08-21-2010 02:28 AM

I guess, when I go to bed I just want to relax and let the dreams come however they will come. I don't want to continue to work at something, lol. Call it lazy if you want, but I love my sleep, especially now while pregnant, haha

**MrsLost** · 08-21-2010 02:29 AM

Originally Posted by jasonresno

Nobody has ambition. Nobody wants to put effort towards anything unless they see immediate results.

Completely disagree... At least with you making a blanket statement and using the word "NObody".....

**lschievenin** · 08-21-2010 02:31 AM

Originally Posted by MrsLost

I was definitely going to mention that as well, until I ran with the other idea and forgot, lol.

Even I can be an example of it. It definitely affects my interest in it when I can't do it easily. not that I expect anything in life to come easily, but that's just the thing, I have other things in life that don't come easy that may be more important in the immediate way of this world. Unfortunate things like finances etc for my family and their well-being. Ya know?

Originally Posted by jasonresno

Nobody has ambition. Nobody wants to put effort towards anything unless they see immediate results.

I practiced for like a month before getting my first LD.
And normally im not too persistent with this things i read on internet, but when i had my first, i got so excited that i couldnt stop anymore.

For sure LD is for Open Minded and persistent people, without it you are not going anywhere.
thats a shame cuz it helps you to open even more your self and question some things in real life.. some things i dont see much with people i know

**lschievenin** · 08-21-2010 02:34 AM

Originally Posted by MrsLost

I guess, when I go to bed I just want to relax and let the dreams come however they will come. I don't want to continue to work at something, lol. Call it lazy if you want, but I love my sleep, especially now while pregnant, haha

In some cases it is but i understand what you are saying..
everyone pass through it (not being pregnant lol)..

Now that i have practiced for a while i dont nothing anymore..
just write my Dream Journal and do a WBTB of 30seconds.. and still enoying LDs

**jasonresno** · 08-21-2010 02:34 AM

Originally Posted by MrsLost

Completely disagree... At least with you making a blanket statement and using the word "NObody".....

Sieg heil, semantic nazi.

**OldNutter** · 08-21-2010 02:34 AM

Originally Posted by lschievenin

but my friends that are young and open minded were very excited about it, and 2 of them sticked with the practice for like 3 weeks, both had LDs in the first week, but they are lazy.
I think that this is the problem for the youngers, and the religious thing is the problem for the older people..

So... they stopped LDing?

**lschievenin** · 08-21-2010 02:37 AM

Originally Posted by OldSparta

So... they stopped LDing?

Yep, after two LDs not Full Lucid and Real, they stopped..
but i cant tell you, that after they reading about it, and having this 2 LDs, they became a lot more open minded and stuff.

They are now huge fans of Pink Floyd as me.
This is another curious thing.. Most people that i know that searched for LD, or that did it cuz i told them (this friends) are fans of Pink Floyd, or after it, they became lol

Pink Floyd and LDs have a connection.. trippy

**MrsLost** · 08-21-2010 02:39 AM

Originally Posted by lschievenin

Yep, after two LDs not Full Lucid and Real, they stopped..
but i cant tell you, that after they reading about it, and having this 2 LDs, they became a lot more open minded and stuff.

They are now huge fans of Pink Floyd as me.
This is another curious thing.. Most people that i know that searched for LD, or that did it cuz i told them (this friends) are fans of Pink Floyd, or after it, they became lol

Pink Floyd and LDs have a connection.. trippy

That's crazy that they quit even after experiencing it. But at least they experienced it once and I'm sure it won't be the last time really.

So funny you should say that about Pink Floyd. My dad is a HUGE fan, has been since I can remember... But he is one of those religious people who just wouldn't believe in LDing or even exploring anything in the dream realm. he would feel uncomfortable if the subject came up even...

**lschievenin** · 08-21-2010 02:47 AM

Originally Posted by MrsLost

That's crazy that they quit even after experiencing it. But at least they experienced it once and I'm sure it won't be the last time really.

So funny you should say that about Pink Floyd. My dad is a HUGE fan, has been since I can remember... But he is one of those religious people who just wouldn't believe in LDing or even exploring anything in the dream realm. he would feel uncomfortable if the subject came up even...

hahahaha it is not a rule for Lucid dreamers but you can search on this forum and you will see that there are a lot of crazy and lovers of this trippy things
LD is a very trippy thing.. its better than LSD and without any counter indication, just like Pink Floyd, better than drugs, and even more trippy!

**MrsLost** · 08-21-2010 02:49 AM

Originally Posted by lschievenin

hahahaha it is not a rule for Lucid dreamers but you can search on this forum and you will see that there are a lot of crazy and lovers of this trippy things
LD is a very trippy thing.. its better than LSD and without any counter indication, just like Pink Floyd, better than drugs, and even more trippy!

haha, i definitely know what you meant. It's just funny for me because I personally relate Pink Floyd with my dad, and trying to relate him with LDing is CRAZY! LOL

**lschievenin** · 08-21-2010 02:54 AM

Originally Posted by MrsLost

haha, i definitely know what you meant. It's just funny for me because I personally relate Pink Floyd with my dad, and trying to relate him with LDing is CRAZY! LOL

My dad that introduced Pink Floyd for me, and he is not religious at all but dont even like to TALK about Lucid Dreams..
but sometimes i catch him asking me questions about LDs and showing interest..

maybe he try to LD without telling me hahaha
your father too maybe LOL

So your dad was crazy while he was young, like a rocker?
in that time he would probably try LD.. youngsters are more likely to experiment all sort of things

**GabrielG** · 08-21-2010 03:16 AM

IM not a human bean im a human being

**Lazy420** · 08-21-2010 03:43 AM

I think its because people lose motivation of it easily. I tried it before about 3 years ago and gave up after a month because I felt like I wasn't getting anywhere.

**Pegorian** · 08-21-2010 03:57 AM

Main reasons I've found from people who I talked to are:

-Too hard, they tried for a while and gave up.
or
-"It isn't real"

I think a lot of people either haven't heard of lucid dreaming, or did hear about it but don't comprehend the joy have being lucid and having control in your dreams.

**kevojy** · 08-21-2010 04:06 AM

A few people that I know (especially my mom) just plain think it's weird. Some people think it sounds cultish or just boring/stupid. Personally I think they might just not have very good/vivid dreams and can't imagine how incredible the sensation is. Then again, everyone has they're opinion..

**Waterknight** · 08-21-2010 11:06 AM

Well I told a girl about it on facebook today and she seemed really excited about it until I told her it takes a lot of practice unless you are a natural. She didnt like that but I told her about the nose pinch reality check and she said she would try it. I really want her to be one of the people who hear about it and master it in one night that would be awesome and I know that it would be good for her. I also wish my gf could be one of the few who can do it as soon as they hear about it. It can be such an amazing escape from reality and I know they both need it. and the fact that my gf has nightmares I know she really needs it.

**shaun95** · 08-21-2010 12:07 PM

some people just dont have the patience they think that it is just going to happen over night :/ dey dont rly understand what an amazing experience it can be.. like i told my m8 about it and he tried it for 2 nights and then gave up.. im going to keep going till i can at least 2 a week