Arghh..Another fail!

[mdream]

Well..yet another Lucid Dream fail (false LD) [(I haven't had an LD yet)] So, I almost never remember dreams on weekdays because of school, and if I remember them, they rarely are vivid. But this time, I accidentally put my alarm clock for like 30 minutes before I needed to wake up, and I said.."meh, I'll leave it like that and do some MILD or something" (When I wake up before 8 AM or something, I can return to sleep in 1 minute or less) so I slept, the alarm clock got off and I slept in 1 minute again: and had a really vivid dream. I was in a store that is near to my house, and I bought some chips and whatever and I returned to my house, I somehow supposedly "noticed that I was dreaming" and I was like all happy and jumping around the house and told my brother "I AM DREAMING!!" then a friend was on my house and I told him "I AM DREAMING..OMG I AM DREAMING....THIS IS A DREAM!!" and I remember thinking that it was so real and looked like real life (all my false LDs are like these, I even question if they were real LDs but I..don't remember consciousness) and my friend told me "Okay alright..you are dreaming" and I told him "come on let's try to fly!" (i was still on my house) and then random things happened, I tried to levitate stuff. My mom told me "Want to come with me to the store?" and I told her "Shut the fuck up I am dreaming" with a lot of swearing and she got mad, I told her many things like that. Then I think the dream ended. This is so sad....maybe they are LDs or something with a low lucidity or what..?? On all of my False LDs I've had are like these: They feel like special dreams and maybe even remember consciousness but at the same time it's not like I was really conscious or something...GAAAH!! my brain is going to explode I'm confused.

[Raetin]

The one you quoted really sounded like a lucid dream. You noticed you were dreaming while in a dream, so that's a lucid dream, even if it's for a split second.

[Hukif]

Yeah, sounds like a lucid. Also, you can't have a false lucid, just dreams about lucidity, for having a false lucid you would need to have false conciousness. Anyway, so long as you become aware of it being a dream, that is one lucid there.

[mdream]

It sounds like a Lucid Dream but I remember it as a normal dream... Maybe I'm missing something, and Lucid Dreams feel like normal dreams, but then LDing would be worthless. I can't explain this, it's like so hard to explain it. I've had like other 5 "false" LD's like these, and this is the one that I said "I am Dreaming" more times...like 7 times in the dream @Walms: Well, but it's still "false" because it was a normal dream about LD....or...............damn it ! All these "false LDs" or dreams about LDing or I don't know what the hell are they are making me start losing motivation about Lding... :S :/

[Hukif]

lol not false, you weren't falsely lucid, just dreamed about one. Also, saying =/= knowing, so it doesn't matter how much you say "I'm dreaming!" it doesn't mean you "know" you are dreaming, that must be where the confusion comes.

[mdream]

lol not false, you weren't falsely lucid, just dreamed about one. Also, saying =/= knowing, so it doesn't matter how much you say "I'm dreaming!" it doesn't mean you "know" you are dreaming, that must be where the confusion comes. Well but...then what should I do to know it instead of saying it, I mean they are dreams, you don't choose to say it or to know it.... Anything that maybe I am not doing?

[Hukif]

Think about it, that also solves the excitment problem, you can stop, think about it, stabilize and make sure your LD will be memorable once you wake up. Thats what I would do, at least.

[mdream]

Think about it when? I mean, if it's a normal dream you can't think in a dream, that's because you're unconscious, how would I decide in a normal dream if I will only say "I'm dreaming" or thinking and giving it a meaning...that's just impossible, you don't normally control dreams unless it's an LD. I think you are not understanding the point of this thread and of my problem.

[Hukif]

You CAN think in a dream, especially if lucid, a lot of people remember thinking in non-lucids even.

[mdream]

Well you think in non-lucids but you don't control what to think, everything just goes how your brain wants it to be. I remember thinking in non-lucids.. But you are still not answering my question. QUESTION: How to give a meaning to "I am dreaming" and not just saying it????

[Raetin]

People can also control their dreams and don't even know their dreaming. When you say "I'm dreaming" Thats when you think about it.

[Hukif]

Because you are paying close attention to it while thinking it? That is what should happen, when thinking/talking about lucidity, you should try to be aware.

[mdream]

I don't know and don't understand....this is so confusing and sad, if I get one of these "false " or "dreams about LDing' again I'm going to get really de-motivated and sad.......well

[Raetin]

I'm confused on what your talking about, I don't even know anymore! Are you talking about thinking about lucid dreams but not lucid dreaming??

[mdream]

I'm also confused, I'm talking about not having LDs, only having dreams where I Say that I'm dreaming and do what I would do on a LD, that's why I call it "False LD" but then everyone tells me that term doesnt exist.

[Zephyrus]

so your saying in your "false lucids" you are aware you are dreaming, but you make complete irrational decisions, that when you wake up, make you think "why did i do that?"

[Justinn]

ah i think i see what your saying or what the problem is you're not really lucid, you would KNOW for a fact that your dreaming if you were lucid simply saying "im dreaming" in a dream could be an unconscious decision i think thats what's confusing you you're not really becoming lucid.. ?