How do your WILD's start?

**Ketsuyume** · 11-21-2010 07:11 PM

Lately I've been more determined to keep a night routine in order to induce more lucid dreaming... when I actually keep the routine I've had phenomenal success. I prefer going to bed around 10:00 or 10:30, waking around 4 or 5, staying up for a bit... 30 mins to 60 mins... and then going back to sleep just shy of 6:00 or so (while it's still dark out) with the intention of having a lucid dream... or several. Normally when I practice this routine correctly I have at LEAST one LD. Last night and two nights ago I had 3 or 4 back to back, each lasting 1-5 mins.

The transition for me always starts the same. I realize I'm falling asleep, and can feel my spirit/dream body slowly disconnecting from my physical body. I then "roll" in order to peel away form my body and find my self floating in total darkness. Last night in particular I left my computer on so I could hear the whirring of the laptop as this occurred... I was slightly worried I the light whirring might keep me from peeling away... but it just took a little longer than normal to detach, and my mind shortly thereafter blocked out the sound of the whirring.

Here's where it gets interesting for me. In order to stabilize my WILD, I normally go from floating in total blackness to floating down onto the/a floor. (But I HAVE to make a conscious effort to do this. I have to think, "floor.") Once I feel the ground, I push my fingers through it in order to solidify in my mind that I am dreaming. Then light starts to emerge and I can begin to make out features of what NORMALLY resembles the bedroom I am sleeping in. From there I have to walk through the door or leap through the window, and the moment I do that, any landscape can emerge and anything can happen.

Another thing I've learned... if I'm hasty after I can feel my self float away from my body and begin to search for the ground right away, I normally have difficulty controlling my dream body. It takes effort to stand up, it can be hard to see things, (or they take a long time to come into view and are blurry), the dreams don't last as long, etc... but if I wait and just... float in darkness for a while, I normally find my self falling down a tunnel or sorts. The tunnel can look different, but it's always a falling sensation... sometimes feet first, sometimes sideways, sometimes head first, but it's traveling "downward."

It seems the longer I do this... just float and fall and observe ... the more stable I become in my lucid dream when I finally get started. The first two I had last night I just detached and wanted to get started right away... and it was a pain trying to get my dream body to cooperate with me. Everything was blurry and sluggish and it didn't last very long. The THIRD time I came back to my body and decided to try again, I was a little more patient. I must have "fell" in my dream for a minute or two just in observation mode. After this period I decided to search for my "floor" and THIS time when I found it, the room and everything came into view VERY quickly and I had a LOT more control over my body.

I think there is a connection and want to test the theory further.

I'm also curious how YOUR WILD's start. I think the transition into a WILD is MUCH more interesting than simply attaining lucidity mid-dream, because you can analyze everything that's happening from the moment you fall asleep.

Anyone experience anything like I've described? If not, what happens to you between physical detachment, and your dream world emerging?

-K

ETA: I normally DON'T experience vibrations when this happens, but I have had vibrational experiences in the past and am well aware of what they feel like.

**Snowboy** · 11-21-2010 07:16 PM

I don't WILD, but with previous experiences of accidental WILDs, I noticed that if I try to move quickly I can barely move at all. Same with regular lucids. If I try to move as soon as I become lucid, I have a harder time moving and it's not very vivid. >.< It seems you are onto something.

**Ketsuyume** · 11-21-2010 07:22 PM

Yeah... It's almost like taking a moment to "meditate" and focus on what you want to accomplish in the darkness before you begin to try to get anything to work really helps you bring about your intent, considering your dream body is controlled solely by the mind.

EVERYONE, if they haven't already, should look up King Yoshi's old dream journal and techniques. Next to Walking Nomad his stuff was most impressive. I borrowed a bit from his technique to tweak mine, and it's worked well.

**Snowboy** · 11-21-2010 07:25 PM

It's WakingNomad. xD

What techniques are in Yoshi's DJ? Sorry for going off-topic, just curious.

**Ketsuyume** · 11-21-2010 07:33 PM

I can't believe I botched the name again. I swear I knew that. >_<

dream views . com /f79/ yoshis-wild-technique-82529/ (I can't post links for another 6 days. How stupid. Just take out the spaces in the link when you copy/paste it.)

KingYoshi was a fucking WILD and dream genius. It would be well for everyone interested in WILDS to read his technique. (And his dream journals which are linked in his sig.) His battle with Sephiroth was epic.

It's too bad he's been AWOL since May. I'da loved to chat with him.

**JenMarie** · 11-23-2010 03:36 AM

I've only successfully WILD'ed once I think... and it was accidental.

Didn't really realize what happened until after I woke from the LD after. When I TRY to WILD, (most often I end up just falling asleep..

) and get to the SP stage, my ears ring LOUD. Usually it's so loud and intense that I have to stop. It feels like the pressure on my head should be doing some damage or something. :S One time I got past that part, but I must have fallen into a normal dream.

A bit off track... the time I got past the SP only to fall asleep normally, I woke up to find a huge bright red stain all over the corner of my bedsheet. O.O I was so freaked out, because I thought sticking out the SP for so long gave me a huge nose bleed.

But after trying to wash the stain out, I discovered it was just red ink... The red pen I used to use for my dream journals had leaked all over the corner of the bedsheet that was brushing the ground.

**Foul** · 11-23-2010 11:22 AM

Thanks for this post, Ketsuyume, it's one of the most descriptive I've read on the transition. I have only come close to success with a WILD once but this have given me inspiration to stop slacking and try it again.

**Ketsuyume** · 11-23-2010 05:05 PM

Woot! Glad to know i could be of assistance. ^^

**Foul** · 11-23-2010 06:15 PM

Just remembered to hit the 'Thanks' button.

**Ketsuyume** · 11-23-2010 06:18 PM

Oh snap! I just barely noticed that! Guess I have to thank you as well for pointing that out!

**Snowboy** · 11-23-2010 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by Ketsuyume

Oh snap! I just barely noticed that! Guess I have to thank you as well for pointing that out!

You already got 5 thanks and didn't notice it?

I'm almost at 30 thanks!

But then again, some were from the 1000 things to do in a LD thread and the thanks giving thread...

**Ketsuyume** · 11-23-2010 07:36 PM

Eh... I've been on a lot of boards with this kind of format before, but I've never seen a thanks button. ^^;;;;;

**saltyseedog** · 11-23-2010 11:36 PM

My first WILD was when I had a wake up back to bed, and I accidently slipped into a dream. I got out of bed. Went downstairs, went outside, went flying, ect. It was the longest lucid I've had before or since.

Another one I had the next night (I had epic confidence I could because of the previous night) I was laying in bed for over an hour. I felt intense vibrations go through my body and I floated out above my body. I was floating around my house slowly like a ghost. It felt different how my lucids normally feel. But after leaving my room my dc brother came out of nowhere saying random things. I saw a flickering light downstairs in the dark. Floated over the staircase railing. My mom and this guy mike were down there in the kitchen. Mike looked at me like he sensed my presence as a ghost or something. There was this weird brocolli on the counter. I ate some, then woke up. A week later in waking life we my mom bought that same weird looking brocolli. I was tripping when I saw it in the fridge lol.

I've had a few other WILDs which I pretty much just get out of bed, and the dream was to instable then I woke up. One of those I looked for my hands but I didn't have any!