ah that's really helpful thanks. I just thought everyone got really crazy stuff happening in SP. I got a wierd buzzing sensation in my body earlier but I never know if I'm in SP and going into a dream or not so I just lay there. I think I just need to do it once to get the hang of it. everytime I open my eyes to check I RC and have not been in a dream yet (or I fall asleep ) Thanks for the help anyway