if anybody here decides to study what exactly it would take, the chances and odds, for a planet to exist with, not only life on it, but life so intricate as we have on this planet, in so many different forms, i feel it is impossible to believe that there isnt at least some greater force or another working to some end or another...also, unfortunately it is impossible to prove that this existance is even real, or that anybody but myself is real, and this isnt all just a dream that im creating...the only thing we can prove as real is our own ability to perceive, or think...from there it is simply a matter of what you decide is truth...if you perceive that the universe was created in a big bang by God or that He spoke a few words and existance began, then to you, in the universe that resides within your mind, this is truth...has anybody watched the entire Evangelion series? (excluding the movie of course)...they have an interesting thought at the end, the Werburn than exists within my own mind, being myself, is not the same person than the Werburn that resides within the mind of say Seeker or my brother...although contrived from possibly the same source, given the different perceptions, and the different amounts of information each knows about the origional Werburn, they are, in essence, different Werburns...this is true with all things...creation to me is that a Greater Being created everything, and in my universe, this is true...if you feel inclined to perceive the universe as having been created by a random set of elements, working in, by complete chance, perfect unison, thus life was created, then to you in your universe this is true, regardless of what the origional singularity is...your deviation and my deviation may or may not be similar to the real and actual occurence, but what deos it matter?