age or life?

**Aelfadl** · 12-30-2011 02:34 AM

ok so i am soon to be 24.. I have heard LDing becoms more difficult as you age.. Do you feel it's because of the 'aging' process or because life gets complicated, more responsibillity etc. Makes you think less of dreams and fantacy, etc.? Thoughts? Opinions?

**lucydity** · 12-30-2011 03:15 AM

I'd imagine it becomes progressively difficult when your brain begins to get worse, as you age and you lose brain cells, i guess if you practised LDing longer and longer you wouldn't have problems until you were way way older, if you keep your mind active etc.
At 24 years old you are a long long way off that, maybe since other factors like stress and lack of sleep from work may become a factor but you will still have the potential.

**lucydity** · 12-30-2011 03:17 AM

If it were to happen as an aging process it would be the same age as when you start to get memory loss, therefore making recall harder. So coming to think of it maybe using DJ and improving recall dramatically may improve memory and sustain the life of our brains

**Aelfadl** · 12-30-2011 02:00 PM

so i suppose its both.. I got paranoid after losing all my lucid memory, but it was likely stress plus having 3 jobs and not having a life outside of work and minimal sleep but i had a ld last night, so happy day. I'm trying the canwild system tonight, i appreciate your thoughts and agree. Though i've heard of older ones recalling dreams but studies have proven that having a stroke can literally stop u from dreaming ever again.. So some health factors may be involved more than age.

**jed001** · 12-30-2011 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by Aelfadl

ok so i am soon to be 24.. I have heard LDing becoms more difficult as you age.. Do you feel it's because of the 'aging' process or because life gets complicated, more responsibillity etc. Makes you think less of dreams and fantacy, etc.? Thoughts? Opinions?

as you get older your REM cycles become shorter

**Wolfwood** · 12-30-2011 02:50 PM

I also believe children have a very minimal set of automatised behaviours compared to adults. That is to say, children are more conscious of their movements etc during activities, e.g. making a sandwich and so on. As we get older, we gradually become less and less conscious during particular activities....these activities become so habitual that they're automatised, controlled by the unconscious, e.g. driving a car, riding a bike. Dreams are mostly activity-driven, and may involve us relentlessly riding a bike up a hill or some other unusual, pointless behaviour. The point, is that we're unconscious of said activity in waking life, and so how can we expect to be conscious of the same activity when asleep?

My LD success comes from merely questioning activities in waking life, such that I become conscious of the activity. This is then mirrored in the dream world.

**Aelfadl** · 01-21-2012 04:34 AM

it's my work schedule, no doubt. When i got more than a couple (good) hours i had 3 ld's in a row and i am super happy about it. So lucid was i that i thought of this site and thought to myself 'what has no one done before?' obviously it has to be grand and sortof weird so i decided... To eat the sun... So i did. I wasn't sure if i could do it and i didn't want to waste a lot of time, so i tricked my mind by flying far away from the solar system till the sun looked small in the distance, then i reached out and grabbed it as though it where right before me, and ate it. Lol it only got dark for a moment before i had a fa into another lucid dreamscape (i didn't count this as a new ld because i didn't actually wake up).

**saltyseedog** · 01-23-2012 05:38 AM

As people age they normally start to become more "fake" or they adopt an ego to fit in with other people and everything around them. At heart people never really change. You are always you even as your body ages and changes. As people get older they often have less awareness also. Its almost as if we start out almost innocent when born but as we get older we transform into this functional piece of work that can do its job in society and what others expect of it.

When you are a kid you are more concerned with doing what you enjoy and what makes you happy. adults often are more concerned on accomplishing what they think they need to do.