About to try wbtb

**n00bf0rlyf3** · 04-08-2012 10:05 AM

In around 15 mins or so ill be trying to wild while doing mantras and visualization. I got 4 hrs of sleep and a 20 min wakeup break. I hope thia works and ill report back

**Highlander** · 04-08-2012 10:13 AM

WBTB is a tried and trusted method.
Best of luck - Happy (lucid) dreams!

**n00bf0rlyf3** · 04-08-2012 05:40 PM

Failed.. I couldn't get into SP or fall asleep after 30 mins.. I'll try again tonight with like 5 or 6 hrs of sleep and staying up for 10 mins, gotta go to bed early.

**LucidDreamGod** · 04-08-2012 07:22 PM

Definitely helps to do WBTB later in the night, 6 even 7 hours after falling asleep can work pretty well. don't worry that you might not have enough time to become lucid, if you do become lucid, it will happen pretty soon after your first dream begins. Plus when you do wake up, you will have the memory fresh in your head, as opposed to if you had to fall asleep again.

Also learn how to get to sleep really fast, usually what I do is focus on my feet passively and without too much force. This will result in, every time your mind reverts to higher order thinking it will remember this anchor and instead of waking up fully, it will focus on that simple task. It is sort of how WILD works, but focusing on your feet is a very repetitive stimuli, which will begin to fade as your body relaxes, and when that happens you'll fall asleep with it. I've used this to get to sleep at night with great results. If you think you wouldn't mind turning it into a WILD though, focus on your breathing, because it involves a little more stimuli, even though you might take a little longer to fall asleep, you'll fall asleep more aware of what is happening.

**n00bf0rlyf3** · 04-08-2012 09:25 PM

Ok thanks man, I'll go to sleep earlier , get 6 hrs or so. And then I guess try to go to bed within a couple minutes since obv. 20 mins is too much for me to fall asleep quickly.

**Highlander** · 04-09-2012 11:00 AM

I agree with Lucid Dream God's post 100 percent regarding his post on WBTB above.
I found if your WBTB (wake break) was short, say less than 10 minutes then you would go to sleep relatively quickly but you were less likely to have an LD afterwards.
However if your WBTB break was longer, half an hour or so, then this increased my chances of an LD, but it took a lot longer for me to drop off to sleep as I was more alert.
I usually have this break after 5 and-a-half to 6 hrs.
I will have to try this exercise myself, so I can use a longer wake-break time (up to 1hr) without worrying about losing extra sleep.

**Shloom** · 04-09-2012 12:54 PM

It is recommended to sleep for 6 hours, then stay up for 30-90 minutes and then go back to sleep right?
What if one goes to sleep at 00:00 AM and naturally wakes up at 05:00 AM? Should the 30-90 minute break be done then at 05:00 followed by going back to sleep?

**Highlander** · 04-09-2012 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by Shloom

It is recommended to sleep for 6 hours, then stay up for 30-90 minutes and then go back to sleep right?
What if one goes to sleep at 00:00 AM and naturally wakes up at 05:00 AM? Should the 30-90 minute break be done then at 05:00 followed by going back to sleep?

Regarding both of your questions then generally the answer would be 'yes'. However this should be taken as a guide because what times might suit you might not suit somebody else. It is a case of trying and experimenting to find the best option which works for you.

Here's a link to the DV WBTB tutorial for more info:
WBTB Tutorial - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Regards & good luck.