what is semi lucid dream??

[karthik]

i know little about lucid but idont know about semi lucid dreams actually what is semi lucid dream...and what is the similarity and dissimilarity between both lucid and semi lucid dreams ???

[12padams]

Make a multistep plan of what you want to do: 1. Look in the mirror 2. Perform a reality check 3. Hover through the window and levitate next to your house 4. Fly to the moon Here is how you would carry out the plan above in different levels of lucidity High Lucidity: Perfectly as described above Low/semi lucidity: Look in the mirror, Start scratching your head then suddenly remember to perform a reality check. Float around the house checking out various objects, suddenly remember to float through the window. Once outside forgot about flying to the moon and instead started creating tornados to destroy buildings. Suddenly remember to fly to the moon but got distracted halfway there. Simulated lucidity (a.k.a nonlucid dream of lucid dreaming): Perform a reality check, attempt to perform a wild by lying on the nearest bed and rolling out of your body (you're already in a dream but since your not really lucid you actually do this sometimes). Fly outside and mentally rip buildings apart. Normal dream: Make out with girlfriend while sitting your final exams. The exam supervisor smiles at you and joins in. You find this completely normal So in other words when you are semi lucid you get a little distracted but still complete your goals. Simulated lucidity lacks lucidity and instead is a dream based on what you might do if you were lucid. Examples of this can be found at the back of my book "Entering The Phase - A 17-Year-Old's Journey" (link to free download in my signature). There is a list of real and simulated phase experiences (lucid dreams). Remember I am not lucid however I act lucid in simulated lucid dreams. I don't complete my multistep plan which I strictly follow in real/conscious lucid dreams.

[karthik]

Make a multistep plan of what you want to do: 1. Look in the mirror 2. Perform a reality check 3. Hover through the window and levitate next to your house 4. Fly to the moon Here is how you would carry out the plan above in different levels of lucidity High Lucidity: Perfectly as described above Low/semi lucidity: Look in the mirror, Start scratching your head then suddenly remember to perform a reality check. Float around the house checking out various objects, suddenly remember to float through the window. Once outside forgot about flying to the moon and instead started creating tornados to destroy buildings. Suddenly remember to fly to the moon but got distracted halfway there. Simulated lucidity (a.k.a nonlucid dream of lucid dreaming): Perform a reality check, attempt to perform a wild by lying on the nearest bed and rolling out of your body (you're already in a dream but since your not really lucid you actually do this sometimes). Fly outside and mentally rip buildings apart. Normal dream: Make out with girlfriend while sitting your final exams. The exam supervisor smiles at you and joins in. You find this completely normal So in other words when you are semi lucid you get a little distracted but still complete your goals. Simulated lucidity lacks lucidity and instead is a dream based on what you might do if you were lucid. Examples of this can be found at the back of my book "Entering The Phase - A 17-Year-Old's Journey" (link to free download in my signature). There is a list of real and simulated phase experiences (lucid dreams). Remember I am not lucid however I act lucid in simulated lucid dreams. I don't complete my multistep plan which I strictly follow in real/conscious lucid dreams. oh ok fine so semi lucid dream is you know that you are dreaming but your goals are distracted ....where lucid dream is you know that your are dreaming and also you will achieve your goal....right is there any way to change our semi lucid dream to lucid while dreaming????

[Morten]

There is no such thing as a "semi lucid dream". Your either lucid or not lucid. What 12padams talks about is dream control and awareness.

[RareCola]

There is no such thing as a "semi lucid dream". Your either lucid or not lucid. What 12padams talks about is dream control and awareness. I don't believe this at all. It's a bit silly to look at lucid dreaming as an "on/off" switch when the brain and dreams in general have much more depth to them. Check out my thread: http://www.dreamviews.com/f12/layers-lucidity-131625/

[Morten]

I don't believe this at all. It's a bit silly to look at lucid dreaming as an "on/off" switch when the brain and dreams in general have much more depth to them. Check out my thread: http://www.dreamviews.com/f12/layers-lucidity-131625/ Can we agree that the definition of lucid dreaming is "a dream in which you know you are dreaming"? You do not have to be able to control your dream. On the other hand you might be able to control your dream and not be lucid. One can happen without the other. You either know it's a dream or you don't. If you think you are dreaming you are not lucid dreaming, but if you know you are dreaming it becomes a lucid dream.

[12padams]

Can we agree that the definition of lucid dreaming is "a dream in which you know you are dreaming"? You do not have to be able to control your dream. On the other hand you might be able to control your dream and not be lucid. One can happen without the other. You either know it's a dream or you don't. If you think you are dreaming you are not lucid dreaming, but if you know you are dreaming it becomes a lucid dream. You can have the simulation of knowing you are dreaming without being lucid. Completing a multistep plan you made in real life is the only way to know! Btw I hate that definition. This should be the real one: The same analytical conscious mind that is present during waking life becomes present during a dream. P.S. simulated lucidity has already been discussed and I am not willing to have another fight about it. Just read this topic and be done with it: http://www.dreamviews.com/f11/simula...-dream-128246/

[Solarflare]

A "semi lucid dream" is a lucid dream where you have very little dream control and very little consciousness to fully realize that this is a dream and you can do anything. While you still know you are dreaming, you don't realize that you really can do anything.

[Morten]

A "semi lucid dream" is a lucid dream where you have very little dream control and very little consciousness to fully realize that this is a dream and you can do anything. While you still know you are dreaming, you don't realize that you really can do anything. As I mentioned earlier you do not have to be able to control your dream to be lucid dreaming. On the other hand you might be able to control your dream and not be lucid. One can happen without the other. @karthik As you probably have realized by now there are very different opinions and in the end it comes down to a definition problem since 12padams clearly has a different definition of lucid dreaming than me.

[karthik]

oh ...how to convert semi lucid to lucid ???? any idea ???

[Oneiro]

IMO There is no such thing as "semi" lucidity: you're either lucid or you're not. The scenario of: "I knew I was dreaming but then got distracted.." is a classic example of getting lucid and then losing it quickly. This is common to those few who manage to get there. If you have to ask "Was I lucid?" then you weren't. Believe me, you will know it, if and when it happens. These theories of "levels of lucidity" only serve to aggrandise what are non-lucid dreams. Many people here talk about thousands of such non-lucids as "lucid dreams". This is erroneous. @karthik: There is no magic to setting-up lucid dreaming. Just tell yourself that you're going to do it as you drift off to sleep.. and don't expect it to work straightaway. A mnemonic may be useful: you could tell yourself to look at your hands in your dreams, for example. There are variations on this theme, some good, some outright fallacious.

[roman67]

Ya, exactly. I haven’t heard about semi lucid dreams. If you know that you are dreaming, you have to do reality checks and try to control your dream.

[karthik]

but some ppls used this term.. i noticed it some threads of this page ... before i signup to this site... i never heard such a word like semi lucid dream, i know only dream n lucid dream... i noticed it in few threads thats why i askd

[intheworldofnim]

semi lucid dreaming is different from fake lucidity. In semi lucid dreams, you have a strange sense that you are dreaming but the dream still has an influence over you that influences many of your actions. It's something usually noobies experience. semi lucidity usually occures when a person wakes up, then goes back to sleep soon after. When you go back to sleep, You go back with a part of your brain turned on giving you this strange sense that you are dreaming but you are inthrawed in the dreams narrative. It's like an imperfect DEILD, you usually don't remember waking up because a part of you is still very much a sleep so you don't attain full lucidity, only a feeling. DILD semi lucid dreams are less likely detected because during the process where one goes from unconscious to conscious occures much faster with little time for distraction. to become semi lucid in a dream induced semi lucid dream would normaly occure AFTER one has already become lucid. stabilizing your dream while lucid can be quite tricky to remember if you become too inthrawed in the dream experience so upon waking, you would only be left with a semi lucid experience depending on how well you can recall the feeling during complete lucidity. The feeling of semi lucidity will most likely overlap the feeling you had when you were completely conscious. People who are inthrawed with the concept of lucid dreaming are usually the ones who can stabilize this sensation. Others will either transcend into a regular dream or they might recall a feeling of drifting into a thought. to those who think semi lucidity is not real, understandable for semi lucidity can very easily be confused for fake lucidity but one of the fundemental deferences between semi and fake lucidity is the fact that a semi lucid dream has an almost physical sensation of lucidity while fake lucidity is merely apart of the dream narrative. When you dream, there are certain areas in your brain that are turned off. when you gain lucidity, those areas are turned on which allowes the dream to appear even more vivid than normal. The dream will become more like a virtual reality than a false reality. You don't just believe you are dreaming once something preculiar happends, that can lead to false lucidity. No what you do is train yourself to open those other pathways in the brain which allows you to view your dream consciously as you would if awake. When you dream, you are in a trance state where you accept whatever reality you are pushed into. You don't just stray away from that path because you did one reality check. You could do a ton of reality checks and find out that it was merely apart of the dream narrative. Dream awarness has to be tought and when it becomes effective, you brain chemistry is no longer the same as it would if you lived having regular dreams all your life. So brain activity can definitly effect ones level of lucidity depending on how it's implemented. This is part of the reason why schitzos and people who have made it into a habit at a very young age can lucid dream so easily. You have to attain a level of dream sensation in order to detach yourself from the dream reality. The lucidity you experience in a semi lucid dream is not easy to explain or even imagine upon waking up so the experience can easily be misconstrued or forgotten. But when one has a semi lucid dream, they usually know that something was different about it. This sensation usually leads to full on lucidity for those practicing DEILDing so those who have achieved lucity this way might remember being in a semi lucid dreamy state before aquiring full lucidity. It's really something you have to experience though because the mixture of dream consciousness and dream influence is a very preculiar feeling.