Easy way to achieve a lucid dream?

**Crashyy** · 10-16-2012 06:43 PM

I'm not sure if this way is possible to achieve lucidity. That's why I'm posting this. Ok so a few days ago.. In my dream, I was at someone's party. Just talking to my friends. And someone's phone went off, but the phone just vibrated like it wasn't a ringtone. And that guy said: 'Oh someone's trying to call me brb'. Then everything went black and I woke up. I noticed my phone was vibrating and it was my mum calling me to get up. The next day I was dreaming again, and I heard someone shouting at me. After a while everything just went black again and I woke up. My mum was shouting me to get up again lol. So isn't it possible to set your alarm (Ringtone/vibration whatever you want) to go off, but to make sure it doesn't wake you. But you still need to hear it in your dreams so you can become lucid cause of that? I'm not sure about that, I would love to hear some opinions. Btw, I hope this made any sense at all. (:

**Matte87** · 10-16-2012 07:20 PM

Sounds like the technique where you set an alarm to ring only for a second or so, then you use that to DEILD. Can't for the love of my life remember what the name of the technique is...

**Crashyy** · 10-16-2012 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by Matte87

Sounds like the technique where you set an alarm to ring only for a second or so, then you use that to DEILD. Can't for the love of my life remember what the name of the technique is...

If you wake up, then it's DEILD yeah. But is it possible to don't wake up and still hear your alarm in your dream so you'll realise you're dreaming? Sorta like the Remee lucid dreaming mask.

**Highlander** · 10-16-2012 07:35 PM

^ Yeah, sounds like an EILD (Externally Induced Lucid Dream) type technique to me where you perceive an external sound (in this case) to try to give you a lucid 'cue' or prompt whilst you are dreaming.

**dutchraptor** · 10-16-2012 08:00 PM

Yes this is a widly practised method, it is what lucid dreaming masks are based on.

**Carrot** · 10-16-2012 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by Crashyy

If you wake up, then it's DEILD yeah. But is it possible to don't wake up and still hear your alarm in your dream so you'll realise you're dreaming? Sorta like the Remee lucid dreaming mask.

I think that's pretty tough. We're used to waking up whenever we hear sounds that are trying to wake us up. You probably need some practice or a mantra telling yourself whenever I hear the alarm in the morning, I'll get lucid or something like that. The only time I ever gained lucidity because of the sounds I heard in real life, I wasn't even sure of what I heard exactly.

**dutchraptor** · 10-16-2012 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by Carrot

I think that's pretty tough. We're used to waking up whenever we hear sounds that are trying to wake us up. You probably need some practice or a mantra telling yourself whenever I hear the alarm in the morning, I'll get lucid or something like that. The only time I ever gained lucidity because of the sounds I heard in real life, I wasn't even sure of what I heard exactly.

It's actually quite simple, everytime you listen to the noise in real life you do a reality check, in the dream you will hear it too. Just like how we become used to the sound of our alarm clock, we can recognize it and turn it off before we are even fully awake. Seeing as lucid dreaming masks work quite well I could understand that using audio cues would too, maybe even better because we take in more through the ears than eyes when we are sleeping.

**Carrot** · 10-16-2012 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by dutchraptor

It's actually quite simple, everytime you listen to the noise in real life you do a reality check, in the dream you will hear it too. Just like how we become used to the sound of our alarm clock, we can recognize it and turn it off before we are even fully awake. Seeing as lucid dreaming masks work quite well I could understand that using audio cues would too, maybe even better because we take in more through the ears than eyes when we are sleeping.

I don't know, I still think it depends on individuals. I haven't try that method yet but I've done all sorts of weird things half-asleep like trying to off my air-con with my alarm clock and slamming the phone down when it rang because it was a habitual reaction for a ringing alarm clock. If the sound doesn't end promptly, it wakes me up instantly. I'm very sensitive to it.

**Matte87** · 10-17-2012 03:58 PM

Either you'll wake up for real and can DEILD easily, or you'll only wake up a little bit and get lucid. Either way it's a pretty solid technique.

**Crashyy** · 10-17-2012 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by UToo

^ Yeah, sounds like an EILD (Externally Induced Lucid Dream) type technique to me where you perceive an external sound (in this case) to try to give you a lucid 'cue' or prompt whilst you are dreaming.

Thanks, it's the first time I've ever heard of EILD.

**Highlander** · 10-17-2012 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by Crashyy

Thanks, it's the first time I've ever heard of EILD.

I think its the name/acronym which is an awkward one to remember, but as Dutch points out that the REM/Novadreamer relies on that technique, (via LED's) then most people are familiar with the method.

See also: EILD Tutorial - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

**Ekyu** · 10-17-2012 05:43 PM

I practiced something like that once. My mom always use the vacuum cleaner on saturday, and i did try to use that as a signal to become lucid. It actually works once in a while, but the big issue is that at the same time it forces me out of my dream. So my lucid dream only last 10 seconds, and then i'm pissed of at that damn Vacuum cleaner!

You probably need to find the perfect balance for not waking up, but at the same time receiving the signal so you can become lucid. Not to mention everybody is different, so you really need to find this out for yourself. For me this is not the best technique out there, but it may work for some people.. Also you need to be a little bit lucky in this, since it needs to hit in the rem sleep. (I believe the Remee lucid dreaming mask can detect it though..)

**clickadam** · 10-19-2012 03:29 AM

There was a product out awhile ago called "NovaDreamer" which shined red led lights when it detected REM so that you could recognize when you were dreaming when your brain incorporates the red lights into your dream. Aside from the traditional methods of training for dream recall, getting up to awake fully and then going back to sleep, and using the distortion and inability to read numbers or letters to recognize a dream, the Novadreamer is the easiest (and costliest) route. Although the website is chintzy, it's based on a sound concept. If you're willing to pay for it, get it, but otherwise I'd stick to the traditional 6 months of dream training.
Sources:
1. The NovaDreamer Lucid Dream Induction Device (novadreamer site)
2.http://www.crhsc.umontreal.ca/dreamsfoun… (the cheap way)