I need help with this "Demon" that keep appearing in my LD

**Elven** · 08-31-2013 02:51 AM

YEAH!!,I have another LD

,this time its with WBTB.I'm actually surprised how am I so aware in the morning when going back to sleep lol,I even realize that I'm dreaming in kind of a mini-dream 3 times.The mini dream is kind of a daydream thats forming into a dream.But anyway,I did a RC in my dream and everything started to shake really bad and so blurry that I had to close my eyes again and when I woke up in a false awakening leading me to another LD.But my main RC the finger didn't work for the false awakening so I did the nose RC and can breathe through.But as I'm about to go out from my bedroom,the freaking "Grim Reaper/Phantom" is there again,why is he always there to ruin my LD?I'm startled by it but I know its a dream so I tried to Kamehameha him I only see the blue light from Kamehameha but he absorbed it all even though I know and I beleive that it would kill him.Then he started to raise his bony left hand trying to do something but then I stood up trying to ask him why is he here but I can't speak loudly or even normally its like my tongue is broken.I also tried to give him a loving "aura" maybe? or something like that but it didn't work.My question is how do I get rid of this "Demon" that ruined my LD the 2nd time now.And why did my dream shake everytime I did a RC,especially the finger one.even though the nose one didn't. Any advice would be helpful.Thanks!

**OneUp** · 08-31-2013 03:13 AM

Honestly id suggest just placing an atomic bomb in your house and then leave and then blow it up.

**fogelbise** · 08-31-2013 06:20 AM

I would either say hey whats up and fly out the window or walk up to him like you are old buddies...you may see that his demeanor change to positive. You could also just change him into something else or ignore him. You just have to believe it'll work...practice it before you go to sleep imagine what you will do and imagine it working without any doubt.

**Elven** · 08-31-2013 06:53 AM

I guess I'm gonna try and say hello and think that he is not a thread but with that "Grim Reaper" face I don't think its gonna be that easy to accept the fact that his not a thread/scary.Guess just gonna have to practice to be mentally prepared with this crap.

**LucidMoon** · 08-31-2013 10:42 AM

The more you expect it to happen the more it will. You want to start preparing yourself for it, do a bit of rehersal before you go to sleep. Maybe write a short story with you meeting the demon with a happy ending, or draw a few pictures of it and see if you can work out where it came from in your mind.

Maybe you can see it another way, you've got a dream sign right there! Maybe your sleeping mind is being nice to you and realized the best way to get you lucid is to use something shocking to get your attention.

There's always a silver lining, just be optimistic about it. You never know, that grim reaper may have loads of interesting things to tell you and things to teach you. Maybe your mind is wanting to teach you not to judge things on how they look.

**DawgBone** · 08-31-2013 12:47 PM

It's usually best to talk to the bad guys. They are often symbols for issues that need to be addressed. A Jungian analyst would probably talk about parts of the personality that have been repressed: shadow personality, anima, etc. The bad guy is a personification. He feels neglected, is angry and wants to be heard.

Form this point of view personal development, what Jung called "individuation", involves developing and integrating ALL parts of your personality. Give your demon a hug!

On the other hand, it could just be something you ate ...

:--)

**JoannaB** · 08-31-2013 02:39 PM

I noticed you said you could not speak out loud, but did you consider communicating with it telepathically? It is all in your mind after all, the entire dream including the grim reaper, so you should be able to communicate just fine telepathically.

**Elven** · 08-31-2013 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by JoannaB

I noticed you said you could not speak out loud, but did you consider communicating with it telepathically? It is all in your mind after all, the entire dream including the grim reaper, so you should be able to communicate just fine telepathically.

I did , the one where I give him the "loving" aura.I talk to myself in my mind that his not a thread etc,but hes just being creepy by staring at me and trying to do something.He didn't say a thing though which freaked me out.D: I'm kinda not looking forward to LD that much anymore until I can solve this prob cos its kinda disturbing.

**TimeDragon97** · 08-31-2013 05:15 PM

Well, if the Kamehameha didn't work, you could always try the Kaioken or going Super Saiyan!

**LucasPotter** · 08-31-2013 05:19 PM

I'd also suggest a Genki Dama, but I guess it wouldn't be such a good idea... what if your DCs are jerks and don't raise their hands, right?

**Elven** · 09-01-2013 04:27 AM

Lol,I think why my Kamehameha didn't work could be because his already death?cos his "Grim Reaper" which means Death in the first place.I guess I'll try a simple prayer or something(since I'm christian).I'm sure I'll figure something out

**LucasPotter** · 09-01-2013 04:59 AM

Maybe you could try getting a wand and using Expecto Patronum on him? Even if it doesn't work, I assume that would be an awesome thing to do in a dream.

**Tradl3s** · 09-01-2013 05:48 AM

Just fight him up. I have the weapon you need!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...AF_M72_LAW.jpg

**realdealmagic** · 09-01-2013 07:37 PM

I'm surprised nobody suggested this yet, but you could just ignore him? Go straight by him. He might follow you, but just don't let him bother you. There's every chance he could even give you advice or help you along in your dreams! Just let him be your friend!

**Elven** · 09-02-2013 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by realdealmagic

I'm surprised nobody suggested this yet, but you could just ignore him? Go straight by him. He might follow you, but just don't let him bother you. There's every chance he could even give you advice or help you along in your dreams! Just let him be your friend!

I guess I can try that if I fail again to try and kill him.This week I'll prob have a LD so I'll see how it goes with this "Grim Reaper" lol.Wish me luck

**JoannaB** · 09-02-2013 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by Elven

I guess I can try that if I fail again to try and kill him.This week I'll prob have a LD so I'll see how it goes with this "Grim Reaper" lol.Wish me luck

You realize that you are way more likely to see him if you expect to see him, and clearly you do expect it now.

**Elven** · 09-02-2013 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by JoannaB

You realize that you are way more likely to see him if you expect to see him, and clearly you do expect it now.

Well,I pretty much already have him in my mind now lol.Might actually take the suggestion where I'm just gonna try and talk to him to see what kind of things his gonna tell me.And that LD is very vivid that its gonna be very hard to get him out of my mind anyway.But if he decided not to talk again I'm just gonna ignore him,at least try to.