 Originally Posted by Grumpy
NOW is what is happening past/future and now. Do you consider NOW to be TIME? If yes, then we have control of time, right? Having the control of time gives me the idea that we should be able to make time in "Dreamland". In other words, how long we spend in a dream depends on us. Yes, there obstacle people talk about like stabilizing, excitement, fear etc. I want to think that those "obstacles" are the same as we have in "Wakeland". The obstacles we face that won't let us move ahead with plans and just give up, the going after your dream obstacles. I want to believe we can spend: days, weeks, months, years of time in a dream, but I have yet to hear about. However, there was something written online in a forum, I think it might have been in LD4ALL.com, I remember reading a guy's story. In his story he said he spent years in a dream and awoke in the morning after his slept 8-10 hours(I don't remember the time slept). I want to post a link, but I don't where it might be. I might have also read it wrong, but I think he did because after reading it I was amazed by it. -----After reading it I think I'm confused, but posted anyways =D.
Yeah I think the only real time is NOW, but we still have the illusion of past/future which I think is of benefit to our physical lives. I too think we should be able to manipulate it, even in waking life. We already do, without knowing I think, like when two people describe the same event and one person might have been there in the midst of it, so for them it seemed to happen slowly and they have more detail, whilst someone else observing from a distance may only see the whole thing really fast and with less detail.
In dreams however, I am still only a novice in this area, with only 2-3 years of lucid dreaming, the longest I have been in a dream was for an hour or so. I have also read stories of people living lifetimes or days and months in "dreamland". There should be a couple of threads here on this forum about it if you search for "time manipulation" or something of the sort. From my little experience though, I tend to stay longer in a dream when I go along with it for stability reasons as well as when I go to sleep within a dream it feels more stable to me and longer, but lots of people will say that it is still the same dream you are on and just an illusion.
 Originally Posted by Grumpy
Have you been in those other dimensions? I have read about them. Do you go there often? Are you in your body? Do you wake in "Dreamland" already there? Or make your way there? I want to ask, if it is possible to form a relationship with dream character, sentient beings? To ask them about their day. To hear about what they have experience in life? Do they sleep and Lucid Dream as well? What do they do all day?
Can't say I have for sure, but I think we all have. There are certain dreams that just feel different, which I think might be the difference between dreams and astral projection if they are not the same thing. It feels like the place I am in is an actual place, it is usually really stable and I don't see my memories around like people, place, objects... I usually just appear in these places since I become lucid though DILD the majority of time, but I have had dreams like these where I saw the dream scene form in front of my eyes. There was also a time when in the middle of a lucid a alien humanoid being with purplish skin colour started saying how I was a lucid dreamer and I begun to feel vibrations on my head on my actual physical body in bed and then a new dream scene started forming of a city where I saw more of these same humanoid beings, but then I lost the dream altogether and woke.
I think various people have formed relationships with dream characters (DC), even created ones. It would be interesting to ask those questions. Like I said earlier though, I am still a lucid dreaming novice and have much more to explore and experience. I have noticed that my relationship with a DC of mine who I know in waking life often reflects how we feel in relationship to one another in waking life. We had a rocky moment that also showed itself in "dreamland" and at one point we both seemed to be coming around and soon in waking life we did too.
 Originally Posted by Grumpy
Your dreaming self... I wonder if we could start a journal and read it every time you went back into Dreamland. Would there be anything new? I have read that words are stable, but I'm not 100% sure. Or just like above start a relationship and listen to conversation of events. When and if they were a child once and do they remember?
Words can be stable or not, depends on what you expect, dream stabilisation, etc. I have read about people reading whole books whilst in "dreamland". It can be hard to remember what you read though as it is to remember dreams in general. It would be cool to see but it is probable that we might just read something randomly created by our imagination.
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