Thread: FILD /WILD/WBTB and RC questions. Please Help

So ive been trying for about a week now (including at least 12 RCs daily, fingers through hand and breathing through nose). How long will that take to manifest in a dream?

Are you RCing properly first? You don't want to just be doing them mindlessly, you need to seriously think to yourself and believe you are dreaming there and then by analysing your surroundings and how you feel, then you want to disprove that with an RC. Make sure when RCing to seriously question reality or it will be useless. Look at things such as shadows and reflections to see if they look like they should, look at colours of objects to see if they look right. Be aware of your breathing, is it clear and normal? What about your gravity? Are you wearing what you put on in the morning? Try to change something in the environment too see if you are dreaming. Recall how you got to what you were doing before you attempted an RC, if your are in a dream, more than likely you will recall getting in bed. Use the fingers through hands and nose plug just to confirm lucidity, doing them on their own wouldn't avail to much. You seriously need to question reality. This will make a massive difference. A good RC will take at least 1-2 minutes to do. When I started this analytical RCing, I achieved lucidity within 1 day of about 6 RCs. Obviously it could and probably will be different for you as it would be for anyone else. Just keep at it and don't give up. Perhaps autosuggestion would help with it as well. When going to sleep, something like : "Next time I am in a dream, I will look at my hands and realise I am dreaming" should aid in getting them to manifest in the dreamworld!

Second. I have tried all methods listed in the subject. I have almost full dream recall and i journal now. But last night i did FILD method and then did a RC. I relized i was dreaming but also my hands from the wrist down were invisible and one of my dream eyes was closed. My body was also heavy and non reaponsive. Like i could only half move. I began rubbing my hand and wished for clarity and that helped but i still could get fully out if bed. I then tried so hard i woke up and did another RC (it was NOT a false awakening). Also if i do a RC after FILD and realize im dreaming how should i open my dream eyes or how do i proceed from there.

This sounds like you was SUPER close! I had a problem last year with dream eyes where I WILDED but my eyes felt like they were shut via sellotape :O. But after that one time, I didn't experience it again. Perhaps this was a one off, it keeps reoccurring, then you will need to work on dream body manipulation and by seeing through your dream eyes. Keep at FILD for at least another week before thinking about trying some other technique, it seems this almlost worked for you so keep trying and you will get something I promise!

Also in the WBTB method when i see the waves of color am i supposed to visualize at that point? In another post i mentioned how i end up in this crazy vibration with a whirlpool of black and white colors. I know im asleep but cant visualize or do anything. Another member told me i was close to a OBE and i know she/he is right. When it happened again 2 nights ago i tried floating/climbing a rope/etc but was still stuck.

When I see colours and visual hallucinations, if I want to LD anyway, i just saty calm and observe them, not focus on them but just watch them mindlessly like I do when I watch TV. In my experience, if I am in SP, this will result in a dream image being formed and I take off from there.

Visualisation is great when dosing of as it is telling your subconscious what you want to experience. If you are great at visualisation, you can visualise a dream scene s you fall to sleep and when what you visualised appears in a dream, you should be triggered to RC!

Now that ive been trying this for a week my dreams are clear and i can remember. But as soon as i wake i wonder why i didnt realize it was a dream cause it seems so obvious. So just wondering about when RCs in WL will manifest while dreaming.

This happens a lot at the beginning, but the more you increase your awareness of your environment, body and develop a sense of mindfulness, you will start picking up on these oddities! Keep at it, you have had a great week with a close Lucid dream, just that it sounds like you were border WL and a dream.

Good luck and I hope this helps a lot! Sorry for the length but I wanted to help the best I can!