Hi Coryrage619. So much for my giving advice. Did LD last night but it was very disappointing. Never thought I'd say that about a lucid dream. Took a while to WILD and when I finally did, most of the LD was in the dark or semi dark and was quite short. Wanted to clarify things but for some reason, failed to do any techniques. Nothing much developed in the LD and I lost lucidity and it turned into a NLD with thoughts and discussion with someone about LDing. Although I've had good luck with WILD (6 out of 8 last attempts), I think I'll continue with doing WBTB, do some MILD, go back to sleep, and hope for a DILD. The several I have had have been my most vivid LD's for some reason. I'll probably stop using the supplements as well.