 Originally Posted by MandiRN
feeling like a black hole of space has opened and is sucking my soul out of my body (sorry so dramatic) until I can force myself awake. This I guess is LD since I am aware and fighting against it. I always feel like if I give into it that it is death awaiting me. It almost feels like a spiritual fight I'm fighting.
Anyone else get this soul sucking black hole invading their sleep? It sometimes also feels as if my physical body is shaking and I wonder if it actually is (that I'm registering my physical existance at the same time) or just part of my LD. Which at times the feeling of my body shaking adds to the feeling that I am pushing myself to the limit of my body and soul.
Now this is very interesting to me indeed. When I first induced REM Atonia/SP when I very first started WILDing way back in 2008, I had no idea what to do while I was just sitting there experiencing this phenomenon, trying to come up with how to get in a dream. Since I had had it only about two times before that, and one of the experiences was pretty wild with tactile hallucinations and bodily sensations, it gave me idea. The idea was to believe there was a vortex or black hole-like entity above and behind my head a bit (later on I also got good results by having it form near me feet too), and I also "knew" that it would suck me up like water quickly going down a drain, and when I was sucked up completely, I would be in a lucid dream. As soon as I thought about it, I did it, and found myself in a dream. I've since used this technique with quite frankly unbelievably reliable results in allowing me to transition into a dream from SP. Nothing else I've done regarding LDing has more than a 40-60% chance of working, but I honestly can't remember a single time this didn't work when I tried it, and it's been responsible for achieving most of my WILDs.
Something a bit off, though, is how you described being ripped from your body, rather than your body simply being sucked into it. This reminds me of one specific experience where I got SP unintentionally and had taken a sleep medication. This is also the only SP experience out of 50+ that I've ever experienced unyielding terror in, and actually involved some rather dream-like hallucinations. I normally don't see anything in REM Atonia, I don't know if my eyes are actually closed or not, but it's always pitch black and like being transported, at least part way, into a different realm. Sensations of falling or my body doing things aren't terribly uncommon, and but actually seeing something is. In this experience, the SP felt much more wrong than I've experienced in the past. Usually the experience is pretty enjoyable or totally benign. This was also a strange experience because it's the only time I have gone into and stayed conscious during REM Atonia while lying on my belly rather than on my back or side.
So, lying there, I felt as though my dream body began falling through what for a second was empty space, but became an unimaginably large tunnel-like expanse of psychedelic colors, shapes, and geometric patterns. Falling quickly became the wrong way to describe what was happening, because my speed was increasing exponentially, and it was getting a bit uncomfortable at this point, but I enjoy novel experiences like this in their own right, so I let it keep happening. Oh yeah, forgot to mention I can move whenever I will myself to and break out of SP. Anyway, at some point the already enormous tunnel suddenly opened up, revealing an incomprehensibly large expanse that I understood to be justifiably infinite but contained in itself. The psychedelic colors and geometric patterns were now less like lining or making up the walls of the essentially cylindrical tunnel I was going down, and now it was like viewing a scene from space itself. The ever increasing speed becoming all the more frightening coupled with suddenly feeling the magnitude of just how large the scene I was looking at was suddenly caused unyielding and ever intensifying terror, as it was quickly becoming the only thing I was able to feel besides the unrelenting speed at which I was being sucked downward. I decided enough was enough, and wanted it to stop. I tried moving, and it felt like my dream bodies nerves were being violently ripped from the nerves bounding it to my physical body. It felt like they were being locked down by powerful electromagnetic locks. The sensation was about as close to painful as I think you could get without considering it to be pain, it was just very strange and uncomfortable. It felt like I was trying to rip away from something that relied on constant interaction with the parts around it so as I was pulling away, it was pulling me back to the original position and the new position instantaneously. After about 5 seconds, it felt as though I were to rip from the upper half of my body, and I found myself coming out of the experience, propping my upper torso up off the bed with my left arm.
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