Hey, this is neat. I'm going to check out your YouTube channel! It can be nice to have some motivation and guidance. |
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Sometimes it can feel as if lucid dreaming is impossible. |
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Hey, this is neat. I'm going to check out your YouTube channel! It can be nice to have some motivation and guidance. |
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Dreams are real while they last. Can we say more of life? - Havelock Ellis
I think it helps if you fully enjoy and appreciate your non lucid dreams as well. Non lucid dreams can be very powerful/memorable experiences too. The worst kind of dry spell is when recall is so bad you struggle every night just to remember anything, let alone getting lucid. So when you just start getting nights full of vivid intense dream recall it's a joy. Then, when lucidity comes it's like the icing on the cake. |
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Last edited by Caradon; 06-30-2019 at 12:14 AM.
I totally agree, Caradon. I highly value my non-lucids as well. I wonder why the LDs seem to come in waves for so many people, even when they're adept at becoming lucid. How often is it that experienced LDers go through phases of having no LDs? And do they ever get to a point where they have consistency without the dry spells? I would think a big factor is waxing and waning motivation. |
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Dreams are real while they last. Can we say more of life? - Havelock Ellis
That's exactly it. The focus on it needs to be maintained. It's true it gets much easier the more you do it. After a while you are getting lucid so often you get used to the feeling of being in a dream and it becomes much easier to recognize. And you start having lucids where you are not even aware of the moment of realization, because you just so smoothly knew it, almost natural like. It's actually a little annoying when that happens lol. I like the moment of realization. The wow moment, the sudden awareness. And those moments when you don't really believe you are dreaming but do a reality check and find out you actually are and just totally blown away by what the RC is telling you. |
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Last edited by Caradon; 06-30-2019 at 03:31 AM.
That's good to know. I also enjoy my moments of realization in dreams. So far I haven't had the smooth transition that starts to happen with more experience. I'm really looking forward to having longer and more dynamic LDs so I want to have consistency with my practices. |
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Dreams are real while they last. Can we say more of life? - Havelock Ellis
That's a good question. I think it depends on a lot of things. How long it's been. How far I've gotten away from it. Right now though, having had so many experiences. Once recall is where it needs to be, and doing the right things, I think falling back into it is pretty natural. Might take a bit of effort but once the ball starts rolling so to speak like putting on an old hat. After all, I feel much more naturally at home there, than the waking world. |
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Last edited by Caradon; 06-30-2019 at 01:04 PM.
It sounds like it has been on and off for you at times. It is nice to hear that there's some retention with lucid dreaming abilities. |
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Dreams are real while they last. Can we say more of life? - Havelock Ellis
Yeah definitely has been off and on throughout my lifetime so far. At least during this most recent off time, was so into it previously that still getting the random lucid once in a while. Didn't completely lose it. And didn't completely lose recall. |
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Last edited by Caradon; 07-01-2019 at 12:05 AM.
I missed this excellent video so I'm glad you guys kept this thread alive. |
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The more I gaze....the more I crave to see
When you next stand at cliff's edge....will you finally learn to fly?
Yeah I understand that. I think you and I think a lot alike. But I have the adventure in me too, At least inwardly. For me it's both for fun and other purposes. Though if one reads over my journal they will see a lot of focus on the fun aspect, shrugs. lol. At least so far. But I do have higher goals set to work on. And it's not always about what you do, but how it makes you feel too. Even something that might seem like trivial fun may have a profound affect. |
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The more I gaze....the more I crave to see
When you next stand at cliff's edge....will you finally learn to fly?
I'm getting close to 50. Hit 48 June 1st. Nice thing about dreaming reality is age is irrelevant in our dreams. Though the practice might take more work than when younger depending on the person maybe. I know if I'm not focused on dreaming recall gets shitty anyways. When I was a kid/teen I didn't have to work at remembering dreams at all. |
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Last edited by Caradon; 07-01-2019 at 03:38 PM.
Hopefully so, lenscaper. It is nice to think of not being lost in "samsara" so frequently in life. I'm hoping to work towards being proficient enough to have LDs on command through MILD. After that it would be nice to recognize the dream state without practicing induction methods. |
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Dreams are real while they last. Can we say more of life? - Havelock Ellis
My tip doesn't look what other dreamer is doing or how many dreams have because it will cause you to fail. For me, a failure of becoming or staying lucid is a learning curve. |
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I agree with you, Lang. As Theodore Roosevelt once said, "Comparison is the thief of joy." Of course I want to progress as quickly as possible, but whether faster or slower than myself, it is interesting to learn of the journeys of fellow LDers |
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Dreams are real while they last. Can we say more of life? - Havelock Ellis
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Last edited by Caradon; 07-02-2019 at 01:52 AM.
Goal setting definitely seems like a good way to go about it. I'm feeling pretty motivated now that my certification test is over with. Also, that's a great idea for flying. I'm going to give that a try in one of my hopefully near-future lucids. It sounds pretty cool. |
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Dreams are real while they last. Can we say more of life? - Havelock Ellis
Thanks. Recall already seems to be improving. Recalled a couple of dreams very vividly last couple days. And been working on The WIlding and that's started to come back a little. Started being able to get some lucid HI and audio. And WILDing into little lucid dreamlets a bit. But I never really counted that stuff as full blown lucidity, like getting lucid in the middle of an already established dream. Would be nice to get really good at WILDing some day and just step into dreams lucid and have them continue as a full blown lucid. |
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It 's interesting...every time I post a few things here at DV lucidity spikes. last night, after engaging in this excellent discussion during the day, I had five different dreams, all of which were lucid (some more so than others), and all of which were crystal clear in the morning. I flew from dream to dream a few times. It all started with a 2:00 AM WILD attempt and just snowballed from there. I woke up at my customary 4:00 AM time massively exhilarated! |
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The more I gaze....the more I crave to see
When you next stand at cliff's edge....will you finally learn to fly?
Wow, congrats! Sounds like you had a great night of lucidity. Yeah sometimes all it takes is talking about it to help bring into your dreaming thoughts. A couple of my most recent lucid dreams were randomly triggered by talking about lucid dreaming with someone at my job that brought up the subject when dreams were mentioned. It actually surprised me, because I wasn't purposely trying to induce one during that period. And it's pretty rare for me to get lucid randomly like that. But it's happened a few time during my off period. |
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