Thread: Lucid Dreaming Impossible?!

Why would people believe that lucid dreaming is impossible? I need an explanation.

Frustration? I used to consider having them without waking up right away impossible! It's an attitude.

People are close-minded. They don't believe something until they experience it themselves.

Originally Posted by yellowlight

People are close-minded. They don't believe something until they experience it themselves.

I agree. I know people like this, and it really gets on my nerves.

Stephen LaBerge has done studies showing that it is possible, and he used some weird eye movement method to communicate with people in their dreams.

This is the best link I could find: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_d...eption_of_time

Originally Posted by yellowlight

People are close-minded. They don't believe something until they experience it themselves.

Which I think applies to all the "rational" invaders of the BD section

I wouldn't know because I never thought it was impossible, but I think one reason could be that it might sound too good to be true.

example:

lucid dreamer- " Lucid dreaming is an experience unlike anything else. It takes you to a place where you can do anything your imagination can come up with. It can feel as real as waking life, and there's no physical danger. and it's relatively easy to do."

skeptic- "well then why doesn't everyone do it?"

Originally Posted by starry eyes

Which I think applies to all the "rational" invaders of the BD section

But you understand that there's nothing paranormal about lucid dreaming, right? And we (rational people) need proof before we start believing in something paranormal.

I think most people just dont understand what it really is.

Originally Posted by starry eyes

Which I think applies to all the "rational" invaders of the BD section

...as opposed to all the "irrational" natives there?

Originally Posted by yellowlight

People are close-minded. They don't believe something until they experience it themselves.

such as most of the people here on DV who don´t believe in shared dreamings and alternative realities?

Originally Posted by SonatArctica

such as most of the people here on DV who don´t believe in shared dreamings and alternative realities?

Originally Posted by yellowlight

But you understand that there's nothing paranormal about lucid dreaming, right? And we (rational people) need proof before we start believing in something paranormal.

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Wow thanks guys. I was actually waiting for some reject moderater to come and shut this thread down.

Yes i don't want to say that lucid dreaming has been proven but I believe there has been enough evidence to show that it is possible. The only thing that is blocking the proof part is how far logic can go.

I had a lucid dream the other day (in my signature), where ofcourse I realized I was dreaming. Walked through walls, went flying and jumping really high. Knew I was dreaming, but I saw my parents and for some reason, I thought for a moment that I was in their dream too. Logic works on so many different weird levels.

To still claim that lucid dreaming is impossible, needs to have a lucid dream themselves. By saying it is impossible though, the power of suggestion alone will probably end them up with none at all claiming to themselves that it's impossible.

I hope I didn't lose anyone.

It feels impossible because it seems immpossible after trying hard for so long and not getting lucid. I havent had one yet, I was trying really hard for about 3-4 months straight but its been a year since I have gotten interested in lucid dreaming.

Originally Posted by omgsh

It feels impossible because it seems immpossible after trying hard for so long and not getting lucid. I havent had one yet, I was trying really hard for about 3-4 months straight but its been a year since I have gotten interested in lucid dreaming.

wow. well my advice to you is to not try so hard. It is just something that requires a lot of attention during the day. just remembering to do reality checks so that you can remember to do them in your dreams. after a reality check imagine what it would be like if you were dreaming.

"if this was a dream, i would focus on that tree to gain clarity and then i would fly". keeping a goal intact will definetly help to. I've had about 35 lucid dreams. I joined back in 2004 (had about 3) but too a long break and resigned up last october because im so interested in the subject.

My guess is that many of these people never remember their own dreams, let alone have totally mind-blowing, vivid and realistic dreams where they know they're dreaming and can do whatever they want. And they might think that, by default, this is the way lucid dreams are supposed to be. They probably don't hear about the low-clarity, muddled, foggy dreams where your control sucks and/or you wake up right away or where you're not very lucid to begin with.
Plus, there are probably many people who have some sort of negative view of it (for example, all the religious threads about people whose families/religion says LDing should not be done, or is not just dreaming but something else, like a deal with the devil).
There are probably also people who think "Ok, maybe" and try, but don't have success or are doing it the wrong way, and so think it's all BS.
Or, people who associate it with paranormal crap by default, and so think it's BS.

Originally Posted by Shift

My guess is that many of these people never remember their own dreams, let alone have totally mind-blowing, vivid and realistic dreams where they know they're dreaming and can do whatever they want. And they might think that, by default, this is the way lucid dreams are supposed to be. They probably don't hear about the low-clarity, muddled, foggy dreams where your control sucks and/or you wake up right away or where you're not very lucid to begin with.
Plus, there are probably many people who have some sort of negative view of it (for example, all the religious threads about people whose families/religion says LDing should not be done, or is not just dreaming but something else, like a deal with the devil).
There are probably also people who think "Ok, maybe" and try, but don't have success or are doing it the wrong way, and so think it's all BS.
Or, people who associate it with paranormal crap by default, and so think it's BS.

wow... that really pisses me off lol

not you but just the idiots out there. i don't mean to disrespect anyones beliefs (well who on this forum is against LDing) but that all just sounds so dumb.

I guess they have never heard of the controlled eye-movements researched by Stephen. Why would lucid dreaming be the devils work if the experiences can be so enlightning?

Where in the world would the average person have heard of that? Of course they haven't. Most of the people on this forum don't even understand his experiment and his results. Or the arguments against them.

And sadly, most of the people on this forum really aren't the ones to be explaining it to people who doubt LDing to begin with. So I can understand it, all too easily.