Thread: InvisibleO's Workbook

Hi everybody,

I am starting this workbook in order to share my lucid dreaming progress including some techniques (that I will probably try soon, I have not tried them yet) and of course to get some valuable feedback regarding my practice ;P
First of all: My goal is to become daily (at least stage 3) lucid within 6 months (I think I should be able to do it in less) with LDing being highpriority in my life currently - as Hukif achieved it within 3 months as I read in his post, this is my more ambitious target. I hope that my failures and successes will serve others in achieving this, too, or even quicker.
Thats why I dove deeply into a lot of interesting DV threads about LD fundamentals, Induction, Recall etc. (basically every DILD thing that helps attain lucidity, nothing so far about control etc within the dream).

I will try to describe everything as detailed as possible, but please feel free to ask if anything remains unclear.

So my main method:
- (constant) clothing RC (CRC) Hukif-style - i am focussing on the feeling of the clothing on my upper body as long as I can (in total duration throughout the day) and connecting this with the distinction normal feeling = waking life, unnormal/missing feeling = dream
- polyphasic sleeping - i sleep in Dual Core 1 extended schedule (4.5h, then 1.5h (REM peak), then 20mins - more on this on polyphasic.net). I decided to do start this in the end of march, so I think within 2 weeks, i should be completed with adaptation and have full quality sleep and feel completely rested. Why did I do this? Honestly it was not super well thought out, I just figured if I want to have quick success with Lding, i will have to do WBTB regularly + I can have another shot in the nap + several members of the polyphasic community report pretty nice success in LDing without even trying specifically, so I thought this should give me higher chances.

Current state:
- As a general assessment, I would consider myself having average predonditions for LDing as I was always pretty mindless (opposite of mindful), but still had some times when I awoke myself at the end of a nightmare. I dont care about that, but for those who might as about it.
- I have been practicing Meditation for roughly 2 months and have known about LDing for some years in which I twice tried to learn LDing by doing MILD and RC brute force for some days and achieved 3-4 very brief moments of lucidity and got kicked out of the dream instantly. Gave up on those after some days.
- Now I am on day 20 of my practice with CRC. So far I had 20-25 LDs in total, however all of them where either semi lucid in a way that I only knew i was dreaming, but still followed the play of the dream naturally or they where what I think as stage 3 lucid, but I lost lucidity instantly (about 1-2s after the RC). Roughly 50/50 semi and fully lucid. - more on this in this thread: https://www.dreamviews.com/attaining...-after-rc.html
- In the last 4 days, my lucid rate has sped up to approximately 1.5 per night which I am happy about, but this might have to do with that i was literally doing nothing else than browsing Dreamviews...
- How do I attain lucidity: in semi lucids I just know, and in the lucid ones its 50/50 just knowing or critical moment + nose RC (still used to it from my old practice before CRC).
- Current state of CRC: Getting better daily, I would say on average I remind myself every 5mins of becoming aware of the feeling and sometimes it is also there in the background, however I can only keep the feeling for a couple of seconds, so I am working on holding the feeling longer currently. Also only a couple of days ago, i realized that i didnt put enough effort into recognizing normal = waking and unormal = dream - might be a reason why I am having so many semi lucids in which I dont get fully lucid.
- in difficult activities like talking, eating etc. I tend to zone out for some minutes, CRC at working got better in the last days.
- Dream Recall: I think this is one of my weakest points. Used to be around 2-3 dreams without WBTB on monophasic sleep, but on polyphasic it dropped significantly, because I need to use alarms. Now back up at ~2 vivids per day, because the nap dream is easy to remember. It is only today that I fully realized the harm of the loud alarms, so I will try out alarms that turn themselves off tonight.
- I use Senseis template and until now used some micro WBTBs, from now on will only record dreams at the end of the sleep or after voluantirly waking up to record.
- main epiphany: relax - I used to be pretty tense and have very high expectations for myself on a daily basis, but I realized that i loose energy after some days, so now I take more time off during the day + dont set any "expectations" or dont try to force awareness anymore, rather I adhere to setting a strong intent do be aware consciously and subconsciously (by reading about LDing etc.) + nudging myself to be aware whenever I realize I have drifted off. Am pretty happy with it so far, but nowhere near my goal of having CRC as second nature.
- MILD: Currently, I just suggest to myself to enjoy the dreams and remember them as i already have enough input from the day + not so good experience with more complicated or tense MILD i used to do (still that does not rule out doing a few more things...)


So that's been a lot until here, but I think these are all the main points and we are mostly through. Following are some side/occasional techniques + techniques / lifestyle that came to my mind that I want to implement as soon as CRC is second nature and does not need much more attention/energy. And at the bottom some questions to you about my methods.

Beginning today, I will put some focus on reatining lucidity when becoming lucid - around 20x per day with a reminder, so that in the other time I can put my full attention on CRC.
Today i decided (leaning on the ideas in https://www.dreamviews.com/attaining...-after-rc.html) to practice in WL a "just-got-lucid" routine like I would do when getting lucid: 1. take a deep breath and exhale - 2. remember that there is a world outside of this dream where your body is sleeping in bed. (after Sageous' advice on memory for attaining higher lucidity - i am not sure if this could kick me out of the dream, too, but I hope after taking a calm moment, I am stable enough - would be glad to hear your suggestions.) 3. Remember 3 next dream goals. And besides the Just Got Lucid Routine, I will also visualize how I will instantly roll on my side out of the bed if I get lucid and feel the bed beneath my body and feel i am waking, because I read a post saying that at that point, the sensation of the bed on the body is still a dream (to smooth the transition of waking and Dream) which makes sense to me. i also read about another version of DEILD where after waking, one remains still and goes back to the dream, which seems to be more popular, however I tend towards the first version because I can already use my gained lucidity if I manage to split from the physical body (remain in the dream). Does that make sense? I see the disadvantage, that this will lead me to put more focus on waking, thus lowering my chances of staying in the DILD...

Breathing Meditation once a day 15+ min (mostly for observing my thoughts and learning about how they wander away from focal point).

techniques I would like to implement in the future:
- constant thought and emotion monitoring
- intention setting for every day activity (even small ones), which makes it easier to realize one has driven off

i know these aren't exactly techniques, however I think they could still help a lot in realizing oddities in dreams - maybe not necessary when doing CRC/GRC, but still valuable skill for everyday actions.

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Ok, I know this probalby seems pretty mechanistic and intellectualized, but I think a fundamental understanding is important and am working on implementing all of this without overthinking during practice.
For the questions:
- No WILD efforts - At some point I might include WILD if you guys think it is valuable in terms of increasing chances, different experience..? for now I did not want to do it because I dont want to miss my sleeping times during adaptation...
- Naturally I dont put much attention on my environment, I would say, rather thinking. Might this be unbalanced for LDing? - I do learn to be more mindful in the moment and perceive things like food doing CRC, but most of the times I am working on the computer, so not much to perceive most of the day, but I could go out for a walk or something and practice it more...
- other ressources than DV that you found helpful and complementing?

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Thanks for bearing with me this far! i hope you find it as enthralling as me and have a lot of remarks, i'd love to hear them.

* I forgot: Please tell me, how often you woud like to receive updates. Usually I would probably go for once in a couple of days, updating on the progress in techniques + LDs and answering questions (or asking myself) regularly.

** i am sorry for opening the other thread earlier the day, i originally did not intend to open a workbook, but I figured it would be a better place to ask several questions.

*** Correction: My goal is to get >1 LD per day on average within the timeframe, not to become lucid daily.