Physical pain (in LDs)

**Mave** · 11-13-2021 02:41 AM

I've seen some other posts about this so I know I'm not the only one. Anyone have any advice on this? I may make another post about this but for me it kinda ties into my impulse to just give up on LDing. I have this sort of feeling alot that I "shouldn't" be trying to learn how to lucid dream, and experiencing lots of physical pain really strengthens that idea! But on the other hand I really want to get good at lucid dreaming. It's weird, again there's just this part of me that tells me not to try so hard with it, another drawback being that sometimes you wake up more tired after being lucid I feel like..hmm..

**Dark Passenger** · 11-13-2021 06:27 AM

Being scared of feeling pain isn't really something that should keep you from lucid dreaming. I'm not sure where you got the idea that lucid dreaming is associated with a lot of pain. It's certainly possible to feel pain, but in my experience it tends to be a more subdued feeling compared to reality, and you're not likely to experience much at all unless you go seeking it out.

Impact on sleep quality is a valid concern. You'll have too decide if you think it's worth it.

**Sivason** · 11-13-2021 05:06 PM

Can you explain more? Have you often had pain in lucid? I almost never do.

**Mave** · 11-13-2021 07:39 PM

Hey thanks for responding. So to answer you guys, I've been practicing lucid dreaming for around 10 years with small amounts of success but never really had painful dreams I'd say. Recently though in the past year I have increased my lucid dream practice and thus am having more lucid dreams lately which is great, but in the past couple months I've had 2 or 3 where I experienced 5-10 seconds of really painful things. (Mind you that's about as long as my lucids are regardless) And it's painful like real life too, not dulled. The last one felt like my head was being split in half lol. I am getting lucid once every week or two, and unfortunately they don't last long at all, which is another problem, but I suppose now that I think of it at least half if not most of my lucids aren't painful, and are even pleasant. I've also been extremely stressed because I just moved and am dealing with problems with that, so that could be subconsciously manifesting as pain I suppose. Sivason, as a veteran would you say your practice has affected your quality of sleep at all? Do you feel well rested most days? Perhaps I'm answering my own question about that but to be honest I feel like that hasn't been a serious problem for me. If anything I sleep more so I can get lucid more so it kinda helps maybe haha. But I can recall a number of vets who have dealt with insomnia.

**Sivason** · 11-13-2021 10:50 PM

I think you hit on the answer about sleeping more. I do not do things that will keep me awake. Dreams happen when I sleep so I go to sleep. Mantras should be done in a way to lull you to sleep. WILDs should end up with you asleep within 15 minutes. WBTB needs be no longer than a few minutes if that. I make a point of being in bed at least seven hours but often nine. Being lucid in a dream never seems to make me tired during the day. As far as insomnia I tend to sleep well because I have practiced relaxing and things like meditation and mantra use.