I have recently been thinking that perhaps Lucid Dreaming is not that good for our us and have put it on hold until somebody can shed some light upon my concerns. |
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I have recently been thinking that perhaps Lucid Dreaming is not that good for our us and have put it on hold until somebody can shed some light upon my concerns. |
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Ninjas killed my family, need money for kung-fu lessons
Your second point is an interesting one. I once read an opinion on this and I remember agreeing with the authors point. From an evolutionary perspective, the fact that it's difficult to remember dreams and difficult to get lucid makes sense. Let's say you're a caveman. You have lucid dreams and you get used to the notion of frolicking around with a nice friendly T-Rex. During your wakeful hours, you might be inclined to do the same. What happens - he bites your head off and you don't get to spread your DNA. I would like to think we're sufficiently advanced from an evolutionary sense, to avoid this pitfall - certainly if you live in an industrialized country. |
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Adopted Namwan, 2/6/08 Chris31, 3/14/08
As far as I see it, there is no reason to be afraid of lucid dreaming as long as you are able to distingush between dream and reality, and is of sound mental health otherwise. There has been a lot of scentific research on lucid dreaming, and there has never been shown any harmful effects of it for normal people as far as I can see (see Wikipedia on this). |
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Last edited by Q-Melk; 05-23-2007 at 10:29 PM. Reason: Removed some text, think I misunderstood tiddlywink101 a little.
Assuming that we become lucid occasionaly, without any practice whatsoever, we must assume that there arren't any barriers. I've become lucid during my young years plenty of times. |
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I hope my point was sufficiently clear. Evolution has impacted human development in the sense that "dangerous" characteristics get weeded out. So a characteristic like great dream recall or great ability to become lucid in ones dreams in principle - may have been eliminated from the gene pool as it impacted survival in a dangerous environment. |
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Adopted Namwan, 2/6/08 Chris31, 3/14/08
Well I believe that what DrTechnical is saying is true however i think that their are not really any dangers to lucid dreaming without actually causing the danger yourself, for example your having a lucid dream and you wish something evil into existence and you find it really scary and it starts re-occuring as nightmares, but that can be overcome if you start having nightmares, another is the effect it can have on your sleep patterns however really it is not lucid dreaming that is affecting your sleep patterns, it is you waking up early in the morning to try and induce a lucid dream. I personally cannot see any dangers that can accidently happen from lucid dreaming, all the bad things that come off lucid dreaming can only really be your fault or your descision but to be honest i can't find any problems with lucid dreaming, its a safe thing, your in total control of your environment. Any dangers within the lucid dream would be your responsibility unless soemthing came out of the blue, but still you could wish it out of existence. Don't be worried about lucid dreaming, just get into it and you'll see that it is a safe thing to do. Hope some of that helped. |
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There is nothing wrong, unnatuaral, or dangerous about Lucid Dreaming! |
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Lucid dreaming, as the others have said, is a natural phenomenon. Nothing to be worried about. |
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Abraxas
Originally Posted by OldSparta
DrTechnical, your solid grasp of natural selection and your screen name on this forum suggest that you are well-versed in the principles of science. As stated by others, please don't confuse the Mesozoic and Cenozoic Eras. Paleolithic man didn't enter the picture until at least 60 million years after the extinction of Tyrannosaurus rex. |
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Boy you guys are sticklers for precise examples, I'll have to research dangerous animals that co-existed with cavemen next time around. |
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Adopted Namwan, 2/6/08 Chris31, 3/14/08
Not true (in my opinion) since I naturally LD. I didn't know about all this training to LD and RC's and DC's etc etc until I found this site about 5 months ago. |
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It only makes sense that if you're missing out on sleep, your mind won't work as well. It's unlikely to be the interruption of sleep that's the problem, since most people wake up in the middle of the night occasionally, so I suspect the problem is that you're not getting enough sleep. This isn't a danger from lucidity itself, just your dream journal habits, and will likely go away if you go to sleep earlier or write in your dream journal later. |
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Last edited by wendylove; 05-24-2007 at 02:35 PM.
WendyLove raises an interesting scenario. One I claim to have no expertise in - so if someone here genuinely does please share. |
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Adopted Namwan, 2/6/08 Chris31, 3/14/08
I'm always in control, when I dream. Conscious control. However, I'm rarely aware, that I'm dreaming. |
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Last edited by wendylove; 05-24-2007 at 05:29 PM.
But are we not interupting any vital sleep processes? For example I have heard that people can become very irritable during the day if forcefully woken up during REM sleep. |
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Ninjas killed my family, need money for kung-fu lessons
I've noticed that since I started LDing I find it harder and harder to distinguish from dreams and reality. I have strong feelings of unreality when I'm awake, like I'm kind of disconnected from the world. This is why I've stopped I guess, it's quite scary... |
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Tiddlywink, no. Unless we're practicing lucid-dreaming to much, that we only get below 5 hours of sleep, we'll be fine. |
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Marvo, reality checks are meant to let you know if you are dreaming when you are dreaming. They are not meant to let you know if you are dreaming when you are awake. When you are awake, you should never have any question about it. The only reason to perform reality checks when you are awake is to form a habit that you will follow when dreaming. Meidi has indicated that he or she was developing a serious medical problem from lucid dreaming, and he or she definitely made the right decision to stop. So to address the question of the OP, schizophrenia seems to be the one realistic danger of lucid dreaming. |
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Umm.. ROTFLMAO! You CAN'T tell when you are dreaming *facepalms* that is the POINT of RC's. DUH!:p |
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Seismosaur, Meidi can't tell when (s)he is awake. Read my last post. If you have to resort to RCs to make sure that you are awake (when in fact you are), that is, if you have trouble distinguishing between fantasy and reality, lucid dreaming is certainly not for you and you should probably consider seeking medical help. This misconception that RCs are for times when you want to make sure you are awake is very dangerous. |
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Exactly, you do not use a RC to make sure you are awake - you use it to see if you are dreaming... and there is a big difference between the two like I explained above (the process of becoming lucid |
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Last edited by blade5x; 05-26-2007 at 01:30 AM.
I find it pretty scary that the concept of a reality check as Truffles, blade5x, and I understand it is not universally accepted in this thread. I'll repeat for the last time, you should only use RCs while awake if you are trying to create a habit that will carry over to your dreams. RCs can be used to check your reality in a dream, but when you are awake, you should never have any doubt about it (excluding cases when one is under the influence of harmful substances). If you are unsure while you happen to be awake, you could be developing a serious psychological condition such as schizophrenia. |
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