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What the fuck ever happened to marijuana? Innocuous, harmless, good ol' marijuana?

...No, but seriously. All I see in this thread is a bunch of whiny bitches sniping back and forth at each other shamelessly (I'm referring to both parties here - the advocates and the opposers). It's really quite appalling.

Frankly, I couldn't give two shits about whether anyone here does any sort of drug...nor whether anyone here is gay, communist, or listens to Emo music, for that matter. The reason for that is that if people want to, for the sake of what they call "fun", pump their bodies full of excess chemicals that the human body really doesn't need, it's their own business. Besides, no one's forcing us to do it so why bother getting upset about it?

HOWEVER, I do feel a need to reprimand the advocates of this drug for doing just that - advocating it. I'm not saying that it's a bad drug - although I'm certainly not saying that it's a good drug (what drug really IS good?). Regardless of how harmless you allege this drug really is, the fact remains that it is still illegal in a great number of places...and for ANYONE to suggest to others that they do something - ANYTHING - illegal is a pretty fucking stupid thing to do. Hell, it's stupid enough proclaiming openly on a public forum that you use the drug, especially when any random law enforcement officer can track down your IP address and bust into your home with a search warrant.

This thread should really be nuked; neither side has won and both have lost. Any additional comments defending or attacking the use of this drug will prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that anarchical, stubborn idiocy has prevailed over the civilized manners that our parents have so forcefully tried to beat into our heads.

But you wanna know how I feel about it, honestly? (Actually, it doesn't matter whether or not you want to know, because I'm telling you anyway.) In my humble opinion, anything that I don't have the strength to do without the help of a drug - of any sort - isn't worth doing at all. (Human beings who can actually help themselves...a fascinating, although far-fetched, concept!)

Originally Posted by Lëzen

I do feel a need to reprimand the advocates of this drug for doing just that - advocating it. I'm not saying that it's a bad drug - although I'm certainly not saying that it's a good drug (what drug really IS good?). Regardless of how harmless you allege this drug really is, the fact remains that it is still illegal in a great number of places...and for ANYONE to suggest to others that they do something - ANYTHING - illegal is a pretty fucking stupid thing to do. Hell, it's stupid enough proclaiming openly on a public forum that you use the drug, especially when any random law enforcement officer can track down your IP address and bust into your home with a search warrant.

Nobody is going to track your IP because you say you do illegal drugs. They have bigger fish to fry than some kids online talking about whatever they do.

Do you know how much time, effort and money its takes to gather IP info and a search warrent? They would if they thought you were pushing some serious dope...but not just because you say you do illegal drugs. Trust me....we don't even register on their radar.

On another note people should be able to do whatever they want to do...illegal or not. I don't agree with some govt. laws, so I don't follow them.

I do plenty of psychedelics and they have given me many profound beneficial insights. I am a much more peaceful and calm person because of them. I realize much of the human drama we voluntary put ourselves through is pointless and avoidable.

Psychedelics won't benefit everyone, but if it helps you out.....do it. Don't follow blindly because you've been brainwashed to obey authority. Life is much bigger, sacred and important than to have a group of people tell you that you can't do something when they don't even understand it.

Originally Posted by Lëzen

What the fuck ever happened to marijuana? Innocuous, harmless, good ol' marijuana?

...No, but seriously. All I see in this thread is a bunch of whiny bitches sniping back and forth at each other shamelessly (I'm referring to both parties here - the advocates and the opposers). It's really quite appalling.

Frankly, I couldn't give two shits about whether anyone here does any sort of drug...nor whether anyone here is gay, communist, or listens to Emo music, for that matter. The reason for that is that if people want to, for the sake of what they call "fun", pump their bodies full of excess chemicals that the human body really doesn't need, it's their own business. Besides, no one's forcing us to do it so why bother getting upset about it?

HOWEVER, I do feel a need to reprimand the advocates of this drug for doing just that - advocating it. I'm not saying that it's a bad drug - although I'm certainly not saying that it's a good drug (what drug really IS good?). Regardless of how harmless you allege this drug really is, the fact remains that it is still illegal in a great number of places...and for ANYONE to suggest to others that they do something - ANYTHING - illegal is a pretty fucking stupid thing to do. Hell, it's stupid enough proclaiming openly on a public forum that you use the drug, especially when any random law enforcement officer can track down your IP address and bust into your home with a search warrant.

This thread should really be nuked; neither side has won and both have lost. Any additional comments defending or attacking the use of this drug will prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that anarchical, stubborn idiocy has prevailed over the civilized manners that our parents have so forcefully tried to beat into our heads.

But you wanna know how I feel about it, honestly? (Actually, it doesn't matter whether or not you want to know, because I'm telling you anyway.) In my humble opinion, anything that I don't have the strength to do without the help of a drug - of any sort - isn't worth doing at all. (Human beings who can actually help themselves...a fascinating, although far-fetched, concept!)

Thats the most hypocritical post i've ever read.

What you just said in a nutshell:
Marijuana is great! But don't advocate illegal drugs!
Condoning or condemning salvia is stupid! But I condemn it!

Originally Posted by Lëzen

Frankly, I couldn't give two shits about whether anyone here does any sort of drug...nor whether anyone here is gay, communist, or listens to Emo music, for that matter. The reason for that is that if people want to, for the sake of what they call "fun", pump their bodies full of excess chemicals that the human body really doesn't need, it's their own business. Besides, no one's forcing us to do it so why bother getting upset about it?

I think it's more of a frustration rather than being upset. (That's a lie, it's both really.) I mean, what are you really getting out of it? And not that "enlightenment" crap, because that's just what is, crap, because there are other ways to get said state of mind, contrary to popular belief. And why do you do it anyway?? Is there really a point? Is that the only thing that'll make you happy? And what made you start? Because the only thing I can think of is peer pressure or you just stumbled upon it.

Those questions are really my only complaints when drugs are brought up.

Originally Posted by Tweek

Some people love it, some people hate it.

I think that's about all that needs to be said really.

If you study up on it (through the various links so generously provided here) and it seems like something you'd like to try, then go ahead.

If you don't like the idea of using a drug, then don't, but don't hate the people in the first group.


I tried Salvia once, several months ago. I remember getting a lot of the effects I read about (sinking feeling, becoming one with the chair/couch you're sitting on), but I had a bad feeling. I think it was my friends saying something that kind of freaked me out, and I forced it to stop. The "visions" or whatever only lasted mere seconds, but stopping before it could "play out" made me kind of nauseous with a slight headache. Both ended less than an hour later.

Also, for those that decide to give this a go, DO NOT touch the salvia with your hands. There are oils on your skin that screw with it, and increase the chances of a "bad trip". I still think my friend handling contributed to my bad experience.

Hm got a study or anything showing that? Never heard it before. How are you supposed to load the bowl and whatnot? plastic gloves?

Originally Posted by Through the Looking Glass

A) Why isn't this illegal?

Why isn't sky-diving illegal? It's far more dangerous. I have tried salvia a few times, and let me tell you, the comedown was one of the most beautiful things I've ever experienced.

Oh, and don't judge salvia off just the negative stories. A good portion of these people didn't research the effects whatsoever before trying it and either expected it to be weak just because it was legal or did it in a "party" atmosphere which is completely misusing this plant. You have to go in expecting the craziest experience of your life and you can't resist the effects when they do come on.