Anyone wonderd what our DC's are thinking??

**Xander_Fitz** · 11-29-2008 06:51 PM

The thought just occured to me that our dream characters must have a concious state of their own of some sort, has anyone tryed using mind reading techinque on a DC to see what they're thinking??, it may be an easy way for a RC , if we're about we can try to mind read someone, if it doesnt work we're not dreaming, if it does, we're dreaming ( i will try this technique from now on and give you a update, also try and help me figure out faster if you can try this technique too)...

or if anyones already mind read a DC's mind, what where they thinking??

**slash112** · 11-29-2008 08:18 PM

what ever you are thinking is what they are thinking. but when they do something unexpected, that must be our sub concious thoughts, so maybe mind reading would help know what your sub concious is thinking.

a DC is made up by the dreamer, they are not physical beings, unless you are having a shared dream

**Phantasos** · 11-29-2008 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by slash112

a DC is made up by the dreamer, they are not physical beings, unless you are having a shared dream

It is not that simple. What one usually considers as HIMSELF is usually a thin layer of consciousness which do not control all the processes going inside our brain, that's why we sometimes do not have full control over dreamscene or DCs, and that's why DCs sometimes do have their own opinions and views, so sometimes it is better to negotiate with them

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**Hukif** · 11-29-2008 11:07 PM

Oh its fun, they try to keep a secret from you and you read it in their minds, like that dream were I wanted hate, they didn't tell me anything but were thinking about how unfortunate they were and the people that were killing them.

Then again, all I read from them is related to the dream scene... so not that important lol
Should read the mind of that weakling DG <.<

**heumy** · 11-30-2008 08:08 AM

Our DC's aren't thinking anything, in reality. If we asked them, they would just say something that has been created by our mind. They are not independent. Unless we interact with them, DCs have no relevance. They don't think by themselves, and they have no thoughts. Even if they did, there would be no way of proving this.

**Shift** · 11-30-2008 08:23 AM

I tend to lean toward heumy's beliefs. Except for the part about proving anything.

**Licity** · 11-30-2008 09:04 AM

I agree that DCs exist only within our minds, but maybe the actions they take are governed by a framework of how they should behave, a lot like a computer.

Computers aren't thinking outside of what they are programmed to do, but if you were to see every individual calculation it performs, you would find it is doing a lot of things we didn't explicitly tell it to do to meet its goal.

A DC of someone you know probably behaves a lot like the real thing. Sure, it's all in your mind, but if you read the DC's mind, you might be reading the individual things your subconscious is handling to keep the DC's behavior on track.

Walms already told us about DCs that tried to keep secrets; that is evidence that they have the integrity to hide a secret from the dreamer and potentially from other DCs.

(Sorry if I'm a little unclear here, I can't really think of a way to explain this any better...)

**Xander_Fitz** · 11-30-2008 10:12 PM

He has a point, thats what i mean though, we obviously create the DC's etc... but even our DG runs of instinct, we dont controll him/her at all do we? they know more about anything than us.... but tbh when im in lucid these days i dont even know what i want? lmao

**drewmandan** · 11-30-2008 10:14 PM

DCs are philosophical zombies. Like NPCs in computer games. This thread is ridiculous.

**Hukif** · 11-30-2008 10:23 PM

I still don't get why a DC can't have toughts... considering its created by the subconcient you can easily put some kind of artificial mind in it, even if a really simple one. Or just use some memory insert to fill the space like some do with time <.<

**drewmandan** · 11-30-2008 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by Walms

I still don't get why a DC can't have toughts... considering its created by the subconcient you can easily put some kind of artificial mind in it, even if a really simple one. Or just use some memory insert to fill the space like some do with time <.<

If DCs think, then that implies that they're people. Do you want to go down that road?

**Hukif** · 11-30-2008 11:33 PM

No, unless it were moved to beyond dreaming <.<
Anyway, why imply that? Its not like they are having independient toughts, its all programmed by the subconcient... unless that doesn't enter in the "mind" range.

**drewmandan** · 11-30-2008 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by Walms

No, unless it were moved to beyond dreaming <.<
Anyway, why imply that? Its not like they are having independient toughts, its all programmed by the subconcient... unless that doesn't enter in the "mind" range.

How can you call it thought if it isn't independent?