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      Yeah, jaw dropping...

      I like that part about girls

      Can you say more about energy work that you do before and if there is any source of information on web?
      Also about your experience with other supplements and different proportions. How have you got to this (quite long) list?

      I have to look closer at Mucuna Pruruiens though...

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      Oh snap. Text overflow

      looks like a great post, I read it carefully once I get back from trainings

      oh and
      Jujutsu is the gentle art. It's the art where a small man is going to prove to you, no matter how strong you are, no matter how mad you get, that you're going to have to accept defeat. That's what jujutsu is.

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      Wow, that truly was epic! Well, here's to more sucess in your Inner path to Outer space!

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      Nihao,

      The point of the energy work is to accumulate chi in some of the primary energy centres of the energy body and I think this increases the chances of achieving a WILD or OBE in particular and also increases the duration once you have achieved it. I use a hybrid of exercises from both the Reiki system and also from Robert Bruces NEW (New Energy Ways). This entire manual can actually be downloaded from here!
      http://www.xehupatl.com/download_fil...rgy_Ways_1.pdf

      With energy work there are so many different techniques but it all boils down to "where attention goes energy flows" so if you and doing the right visualisations and have the right awareness then almost anything will stimulate the energy body. I think the books Energy Work and Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce are must haves anyway but that NEW manual should get you started.

      As for the supplements that dose I listed isn't actually the best one I've found as it was too high - this caused me to stay awake for almost two hours which is not optimum. You want to aim to fall alseep 45-60mins after taking Galantamine and Choline. Basically its all in that book by Thomas Yuschak that I mentioned above. The Mucuna Pruriens increases Dopamine levels in the brain which gives you more power or confidence when you are lucid, I find the LD's when influenced by Mucuna are more exciting but I'd only recommend 200mg at 10-15% concentration when taken with the usual stuff. The 5-HTP causes a REM rebound effect so pretty much saves up all your REM for later in the night (after you've taken Galantamine etc) and the Valerian is just for relaxation but I'm going to start experimenting with 100mg of L-Theanine instead.

      Everybody is different so I guess trial and error (within the recommended dosages) and keeping at it! But I'd also like to reiterate that non of the above is really necessary to have LD's or even OBE's but I've found it just helps and improves other areas of your life as a side benefit.
      Last edited by Ajna; 01-06-2009 at 03:20 AM.

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      Radical!!!!!
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      I thought I'd share with you all the dosage I'm going to try for my next attempt in a few days.

      Before Bed
      200mg 5-HTP (2 tablets)
      2000mg Valerian (1 tablet)

      After 5-6 Hours of sleep
      8mg Galantamine, 400mg Choline Citrate (2 combined tablets)
      500mg Choline Bitartrate (1 tablet)
      200mg Mucuna Pruriens (1 tablet of 15% concentration)
      2000mg Valerian (1 tablet)

      I'll report how this works...

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      Quote Originally Posted by Ajna View Post
      The point of the energy work is to accumulate chi in some of the primary energy centres of the energy body and I think this increases the chances of achieving a WILD or OBE in particular and also increases the duration once you have achieved it. I use a hybrid of exercises from both the Reiki system and also from Robert Bruces NEW (New Energy Ways). This entire manual can actually be downloaded from here!
      http://www.xehupatl.com/download_fil...rgy_Ways_1.pdf
      Ajna, Thanx for help and link,
      I never seriously worked on my chakras and energetic body. I was to lazy. I think it's the right time to start. Also because sometimes while WILDing I feel kinda energetic blockage at my second chakra and can't relax...

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      Doing energy work is great! When you first feel the tingling warm sensations of energy movement around your body it is very exciting and rewarding. It was as exciting for me as when I first started having regular OBE's and LD's and it will benefit your life outside of dreaming as well. The fact you know where an energy blockage is, is a great start. I actually had the same thing a while ago but it crops up again from time to time. The NEW manual should explain how you can start clearing any blockages in your energy body. I am getting back into a regular routine of meditation and I want to keep developing my energy body sensitivity myself... I'll be using techniques from the NEW manual.

      I think its great to start working with energy because its something you can do when your consciously awake during the day, or at night or whenever - and it directly improves your LD's and especially WILD's and OBE's.
      Last edited by Ajna; 01-08-2009 at 12:54 PM.

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