Thread: Could LDing be bad for you?

Today actually. I'm a Christian and read some random verses in the Bible and guess what came up? Dreams. It was about two people who went to jail and they had dream, one dream symbolized he was going to die and he did, one symbolized he was going to be a king's servant and he did. God gave them those dreams. But then I just thought, if God needed to speak to me he would make sure I wasn't lucid. I mean I have been LDing since I was 5 way before I knew about it, it's natural.

Sorry for the religious talk if you aren't religious.

Also the dreams where your teeth fall out. Doesn't that signal you are worried and stuff?

I agree that dreams contain information about our emotions, our hopes and frears, etc. I also believe that very occasionally our dreams may tell us about our future path in life.

I think that the things we LD about can have emotional (and other) effects on our waking lives. Certainly having a disturbing dream (lucid or not) can make us feel upset and out of sorts all day! And having a great dream can help us have a good day, too.

However, I don't necessarily think the things we do in LDs will cause more harm emotionally than non-lucid dreams. Many people kill and rampage in LDs because it relieves stress, not causes it. I'd be interested to hear what other people think!

Originally Posted by slayer

So if I'm right, dreams are the minds way of telling you how you feel. Like death in a dream can symbolize stress, and I think falling dreams symbolize insecurity...

So what does that have to do with Lucid Dreaming?
I thought about this for awhile today, and I think that LDing could have small (possibly very small) negative and positive effects on you.

What I mean is, the actions you do in a Lucid Dream could mess with your mind in telling you how you are feeling. Get what I mean?

Like, killing lots of people in a dream might give you a false sense of stress and so on and so forth...

Anyone else ever think of this?

i thought similar things when I started LDing a few years back. My thoughts where more along the lines of, if i'm having dreams normally and if they've got some sort of a purpose to my health or wellbeing, then surely LDing is going against that sort of natural purpose.

Though (whilst it could just be my poor LD ability), I found that I wasn't LDing all the time, it was only occassionally. So I figured I'd definitely still be getting the effects of all the natural dreams I was still having whilst also getting any positive effects LDing might bring. At the very worst, I figured it would be like losing whatever hour of so of sleep the whole LDing process affected.

Originally Posted by hellohihello

Today actually. I'm a Christian and read some random verses in the Bible and guess what came up? Dreams. It was about two people who went to jail and they had dream, one dream symbolized he was going to die and he did, one symbolized he was going to be a king's servant and he did. God gave them those dreams. But then I just thought, if God needed to speak to me he would make sure I wasn't lucid. I mean I have been LDing since I was 5 way before I knew about it, it's natural.

Sorry for the religious talk if you aren't religious.

Also the dreams where your teeth fall out. Doesn't that signal you are worried and stuff?

that's another thing I was more concerned about than my health actually and was one of the reasons I stopped LDing for a while. I started to wonder whether it was unnatural and against what God wanted. If there was more to the world we're in when we dream, then I hadn't really controlled my actions too well when I LDed in terms of morals.

Though, now as I prepare to LD again, I see it a bit differently. I still think there's the possibility that we're entering another world (or something like that) but I also think there's a big possibility it's all just in our heads. I also think I'll have a bit more self control and be able to achieve a tiny bit more in my LDs this time around.

Either way, I see LDing now as not really something that'll interrupt any messages God tries to give us (talking through a Christian mindset). I figure if God wants to give a message to us, he can give it to us in an LD too. I'm pretty sure I've read in the bible of stories where people have known they were dreaming and seeing a vision (or my mind could be making these stories up, I dunno). Even if we couldn't get these messages or meanings from dreams if we were LDing, God would then just make sure we had dreams in which we didn't LD. I mean, i don't think anyone has ever spent their entire live solely having LDs. You have normal dreams too, so those messages will still get though.

In terms of causing yourself to be more stressed... etc if you make your dreams go in a certain way, I don't think that really applies. My guess is that seeing as you are the soul cause of it and know why it's happening (e.g. you), then maybe it doesn't have that meaning anymore. That's assuming those meanings are correct in the first place.

Either way, I don't think LDing would be that bad for you. Exploring your inner conscious and learning more about yourself surely can't be too much of a bad thing.

i thought something else, im pretty sure that the LD itself's safe mentaly BUT- in chinese medicine and where ever you have a talk of chi and energy (i dont have a real faith in most of it, but yeah i guess there could be something there). a friend told me (he's pretty crazy but still..) that when u LD u waste alot of energy, specially when u use dream powers like summoning giant creatures or altering the scene around u..

i dont know if there something to it, but i think there needs to be a test done to see if after a LD where u used powers you wake up tired compared to your other dreams..

Originally Posted by hellohihello

God needed to speak to me he would make sure I wasn't lucid. I mean I have been LDing since I was 5 way before I knew about it, it's natural.

so God isn't powerful enough to speak to you in an LD or in RL- just in nonlucids- I think he is a little more powerful than that and if he wanted to send you a message he'd figure out a way

I don't think so, unless you become addicted to it. Or to a certain website we all know about.

Originally Posted by australianguy

that's another thing I was more concerned about than my health actually and was one of the reasons I stopped LDing for a while. I started to wonder whether it was unnatural and against what God wanted. If there was more to the world we're in when we dream, then I hadn't really controlled my actions too well when I LDed in terms of morals.

Though, now as I prepare to LD again, I see it a bit differently. I still think there's the possibility that we're entering another world (or something like that) but I also think there's a big possibility it's all just in our heads. I also think I'll have a bit more self control and be able to achieve a tiny bit more in my LDs this time around.

Either way, I see LDing now as not really something that'll interrupt any messages God tries to give us (talking through a Christian mindset). I figure if God wants to give a message to us, he can give it to us in an LD too. I'm pretty sure I've read in the bible of stories where people have known they were dreaming and seeing a vision (or my mind could be making these stories up, I dunno). Even if we couldn't get these messages or meanings from dreams if we were LDing, God would then just make sure we had dreams in which we didn't LD. I mean, i don't think anyone has ever spent their entire live solely having LDs. You have normal dreams too, so those messages will still get though.

In terms of causing yourself to be more stressed... etc if you make your dreams go in a certain way, I don't think that really applies. My guess is that seeing as you are the soul cause of it and know why it's happening (e.g. you), then maybe it doesn't have that meaning anymore. That's assuming those meanings are correct in the first place.

Either way, I don't think LDing would be that bad for you. Exploring your inner conscious and learning more about yourself surely can't be too much of a bad thing.

I just think of it as a super vivid day dream. Because, well you're awake.

Originally Posted by yuriythebest

so God isn't powerful enough to speak to you in an LD or in RL- just in nonlucids- I think he is a little more powerful than that and if he wanted to send you a message he'd figure out a way

You know what, I never thought of that

Originally Posted by slayer

So if I'm right, dreams are the minds way of telling you how you feel. Like death in a dream can symbolize stress, and I think falling dreams symbolize insecurity...

So what does that have to do with Lucid Dreaming?
I thought about this for awhile today, and I think that LDing could have small (possibly very small) negative and positive effects on you.

What I mean is, the actions you do in a Lucid Dream could mess with your mind in telling you how you are feeling. Get what I mean?

Like, killing lots of people in a dream might give you a false sense of stress and so on and so forth...

Anyone else ever think of this?

There is a inhibitor to prevent this. I think when you actually get lucid it's near the end of the dream or you still do whatever that was intended with the awareness that it's a dream

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Originally Posted by hellohihello

I just think of it as a super vivid day dream. Because, well you're awake.

yeah, that's a pretty good way of looking at it. Though I'd assume it's giving me slightly more rest than just a daydream would.

lol I completly agree with Shift. That and thinking it will mess with you, as dreams works over expectatives, so I suppose if you think of LD as a dream withouth a meaning, it will not affect you.