Thread: Do you find your state of mind different when Lucid?

I think I know what you mean. Even in my most clearheaded lucids, I don't feel like the same person I am in waking life. It is like I have an entirely different personality. I react differently than I normally would in situations. Sometimes I even have different memories from my waking self. I remember things differently, or remember things that never actually happened. I also seem to feel emotions much more powerfully.

I would agree. In dreams (even lucid dreams) I feel like a shark - always moving forwards.

When I make sure to get fully lucid before setting out to do things, I'm almost exactly the same as in real life, although things move in leaps sort of. If I don't, there are usually those kind of illogical dream thoughts clouding what I do unless I really focus.

depends on the degree of my lucidity, sometimes I'm more or less myself, however usually without most of the moral and logical inhibitions of RL, but even so I think it's best described as "parts of the brain are turned off". that's what it is and that's exactly how it feels like.

some specifics:
when in a lucid my memory is affected- that is I can remember a dreamgoal if I try but I doubt anyone here would have random thoughts like "hmm did I leave the window open" or "did I do all my homework for tomorrow" or even think about the waking state, a common exception being dream-related RL, that is "ooh ppl on DV will like this dream a lot", etc

It varies for me. Occasionally I'll be as clear headed as in waking life, but more often than not I'll be slightly altered in some way. Usually my judgment is somewhat impaired and I have poor impulse control. But I think the most striking difference is that I seem to be completely "in the moment" and give little thought to what I'm going to do or what I've just done. Not an altogether unpleasant experience, but it can make it difficult to complete some of the lucid tasks I've set for myself.

Originally Posted by DuB

It varies for me. Occasionally I'll be as clear headed as in waking life, but more often than not I'll be slightly altered in some way. Usually my judgment is somewhat impaired and I have poor impulse control. But I think the most striking difference is that I seem to be completely "in the moment" and give little thought to what I'm going to do or what I've just done. Not an altogether unpleasant experience, but it can make it difficult to complete some of the lucid tasks I've set for myself.

I agree with this. Sometimes I am impaired and sometimes clear-headed, but usually (but not always) I "feel" like myself and not a different person. Interestingly I have noticed that my consciousness usually is very much so "in the moment" and more of a singularity. In real life I might often have 2 or 3 things on my mind or more. This keeps me from WILDing. If I want to WILD I have to have one thing on my mind and one thing only which is to WILD. I need to have a singular thought on WILDing and that is it. Often times as soon as I WILD, I split back into two thoughts, one which is experiencing the WILD and the other that is so happy that I am WILDing. When this happens, the dream breaks up.

The best analogy I can give to this is kind of like singing a song in the back of your head while talking to your friends. It is almost like your mind is split and doing two things, but I find this doesn't happen in my LDs.

Also, I really agree with what yuriythebest said about some parts of the brain being "turned off". I haven't been able to reflect enough and identify which parts are turned off or why, but I do know that the LDing mind seems to be conscious but simpler in many ways. This makes sense as the LD world manifests under a different set of laws than the physical world. So it would make sense that some parts of the brain designed for the physical world would not proccess information well and might even inhibit LDing instead of encouraging it. If that was true then such parts of the brain designed for proccessing the physical world might need to be turned off when LDing.

This of course brings me to the next logical question and one in which we all have probably thought about at sometime or another. Is there a LDing part of the brain that makes LDing better? Maybe a part of the brain that works in LDs or even in regular dreams, but doesn't do much in the waking world? What does it feel like? What does it do? I know these questions are kind of the opposite to this thread, but it is still an interesting question to ponder. Maybe it needs its own thread.

Originally Posted by Robot_Butler

I think I know what you mean. Even in my most clearheaded lucids, I don't feel like the same person I am in waking life. It is like I have an entirely different personality. I react differently than I normally would in situations. Sometimes I even have different memories from my waking self. I remember things differently, or remember things that never actually happened. I also seem to feel emotions much more powerfully.

i absolutely agree with Robot_Butler . when we dream part of frontal lobe thaT has to do with logic is not active . we dont know what dream consciousness is because we dont know what consciousness ιs it s a matter of belief and everyone can be right or wrong

Unless mistaken the same part of the brain controls (the control of) impulses coming from the emotion thingy or something like that

so while asleep the part of your brain which you forged your personality in is asleep leaving your real personality to run wild.

The impulses you have in your dreams are the same intensity as awake but you have no control, so the personality you have in dreams will be the one that becomes your active personality when awake IF that part of the brain is damaged.

I think

One other thing that I just remembered from a dream I had last night. During dreams I may be incredibly illogical, but I'll also have weird access to knowledge and facts. In a dream last night I was standing by this building at the edge of these snow-covered mountains, and I could suddenly taste salt and was wearing a coat that was covered in little white specks. I asked one of my DCs if it was salt and they said yes, and in my unlucid state I said something like, "Oh, that would make sense because as the water freezes into ice on the mountain, it leaves the salt behind (even though we weren't anywhere near the ocean)." I didn't realize that the water to begin with wasn't salt water, I just knew, accurately, that when things like sea ice form they leave salt behind. This'll happen a lot in my dreams, I'll have partial access to real memories and reasoning, but it still won't actually make sense.

Im my dreams I dont really feel like I think different but after I wake up and think about what I did or thought its doesnt really seem like something I would normally do. In real lie Im kindof shy but in the dreams sometimes Ill talk to someone I wouldnt in real life.

The last posts were really good and reminded me of something. When I am in a regular dream, I do have different personality. It does of course feel like me, but it is often an uninhibited, automated and very reactionary me. So I can completely relate to what people are saying. But when I had written my posts, I had been thinking about when I lucid dream, in which case I always feel like myself. But usually when I lucid dream I WILD (if only for a few seconds. Need to work on getting those longer). When I WILD I start off the dream more or less from my waking life consciousness so the dream ends up feeling like waking life me. But on some occasions I do MILD. When I MILD I start the dream off with the dream personality active, the one that is more wild and try to make it more lucid by bringing in some awareness. I think this awareness must reflect my waking state, right?

Anyway, I think that if I MILD, I might be more likely to have a mixture of waking state and dreaming state personalities and not feel as much like myself. But if I WILD then I feel more like myself. Does this make sense? Anybody have any experience similar or opposite to this? Just a theory.

I've found that with my WILDs, I don't have that 100% clear cognition that I have while awake. They're really incredibly similar to my DILDs, in almost every single aspect.

It depends. For the most part, I'm clear headed, but almost in a fog. I get distracted very easily, and forget to RC a lot. If I were in a clear state of mind, I would stabilize every 10 seconds if it would let me do whatever I want.

No matter how clear headed I think I am in the dream, I will always find some inconsistencies after I wake up and think back on my state of mind. In my super-lucid dreams, I will sit there and marvel at how clearly I can think. It is not until later, after I wake up, that I realize how delusional I really was.

Hmmm, sometimes when i am awake i think "i am gonna try to teleport in my dream" but when i dream its like i know i want to do something but i just cant remember.