Quote Originally Posted by ZenMan12 View Post
What ass?

What is the point of me trying to explain what I mean if you already have something your going to say afterward? And why would you even say that? Didn't you just give your plan away to me? Now I know your going to say a "good" thing afterward. Which I can only guess is some snarky remark to show that you "got me."

Also, if I'm a retard why couldn't you figure out what I said?



I have lucid dream before. I worked very hard to achieve Lucid dreaming a long while back but it seemed to make life complicated always having to work at it and putting it on a high pedestal. Being lucid in a dream without effort doesn't happen much but why should regular dreams be avoided?

If one needs to maintain and work for something that means that there are goals. Freedom to me comes from the realization that nothing needs to worked on since you already are free. Effort in order to maintain a certain state comes at a sense to keep control over your surroundings. This stems from insecurity. It seems like enslavement to me.

Just like you can breath with or without effort. When you breathe with effort, while you may get better at breathing, you can become more miserable and not enjoy the finer things in life.
Okay so from what I have gathered so far, you have had Lucid Dreams before, but you don't like to overlook the non-lucid dreams either. Which I can understand that, I love dreams in general because of the fact that you never know where your going to end up--and you never know what you could gain from that... Now if you were Lucid you can miss out on that opportunity (if a non LD had something meaningful).


So I can see where you are coming from, yes Lucid Dreaming does take effort, it takes the patience to learn, and the routine to keep at it, but honestly, it's not like working a 15 hour job or anything like that.

Now are you the type of person that enjoys non lucid dreams, better then lucid dreams?

I am still wondering what you are trying to explain through all this, I believe I have gathered some stuff so far--or not--but just curious