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      I am against that kind of advertising. Sorry, that's just the way I feel. Sure, the masses should know we are not practicing anything mysterious or supernatural, but I don't feel it is a good idea to start yelling out for lucid dreaming. Dreams are something inherent with humans and those who are willing to get some insight will seek it. I'd hate if media got it's hands on LD, moreover if some companies started selling lucid dreaming machines ( which do exists already) for the masses.

      Wipe out misinformation and lies, but don't preach.

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      Indeed. That is the point. Something that has always existed among humans, for millenias now, shouldn't be mocked and ruined by media and salesmen.
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      I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with most of you. A lot of us didn't find out about lucid dreaming on our own, and have heard it from someone else.

      What if you never heard about it your whole life?

      What if you never even had the chance to experience it?

      Well I DO NOT want to take that away from people. I WANT to give other people a chance!

      Don't be so scared of the media, stand up and spread the word.

      Lets not be selfish!
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      I don't want knowledge of it to spread- people on the bus might understand I'm doing RC's. I don't want crazy religious and moral groups arguing against it.
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      then you be a man and argue back!
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      I think enlightening anyone who cares enough to ask is enough. Besides, what would the benefits of commercialising Lucid Dreaming be?

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      Quote Originally Posted by MiguelHombree View Post
      then you be a man and argue back!
      Do you have any idea why wars are started and religious hostilities are born? You just said it.

      I am adamant with my opinion that those who share deep interest with dreams will find it. Or those who have natural success will seek us out.
      Jujutsu is the gentle art. It's the art where a small man is going to prove to you, no matter how strong you are, no matter how mad you get, that you're going to have to accept defeat. That's what jujutsu is.

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      I wish so much someone had told me about lucid dreaming when I was a child. I had no idea it was possible. It never occurred to me. Then at least I would have had the choice over whether or not to pursue lucid dreams. I would love to have been lucid dreaming throughout my youth and to see how my dream patterns and themes changed over the years. I can never get that time back.

      All children should be told about lucid dreaming instead of the bullshit waste of time that is religion.

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      Either way it would be benificial for it to grow. If it grew at a rate that kept things calm I think everything would be alright.
      If it suddenly sparked into light and started a massive worldwide trend, there may be some consequences and hostile attacks from other groups could be possible. I think doing what we could here and there would be plenty of support to let it grow, but not too quick.
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      If it did grow, that means so much more input to dreamviews.com,
      so much more induction techniques
      so much more help and tips!
      "As much as the world effects you,
      you effect the world"

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      Quote Originally Posted by Unelias View Post
      Do you have any idea why wars are started and religious hostilities are born? You just said it.

      I am adamant with my opinion that those who share deep interest with dreams will find it. Or those who have natural success will seek us out.
      Agreed. I also have no interst in institucionalzing lucid dreaming. I started lucid dreaming spontanuosly. I'm here today because I share some common beliefs and interests with some freinds.

      Think about it. Most people aren't even interest in dreams anyways, people don't attribute any particular importance to them. If this goes mainstream (i.e the fucking networks involved) people will see it as another fad, as a way of cheap and 'cool' entertainment.

      It's not that lots of people interested is necessarily a bad thing. I actually would like to see more of them interest in this sort of thing. It's the meaning of lucid dreams, the use we make of them ( and the consequences of it) that concerns me.

      Remember what has happened to psychedelics they use to be a great way of getting to know youself and now people abuse them, they just use them for sheer fun at parties so the whole thing becomes another superficial and banal experience of modern society.

      ... and now psychedelics are illegal and frown upon.
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      Quote Originally Posted by MiguelHombree View Post
      I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with most of you. A lot of us didn't find out about lucid dreaming on our own, and have heard it from someone else.

      What if you never heard about it your whole life?

      What if you never even had the chance to experience it?

      Well I DO NOT want to take that away from people. I WANT to give other people a chance!

      Don't be so scared of the media, stand up and spread the word.

      Lets not be selfish!
      If you want to give others a chance, then go ahead and tell them about lucid dreaming.

      We're not being selfish. We just don't want it to become mainstream.

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