hallucinogens and SP

[direanthony]

Just a random curious question... When you're entering SleepParalysis and start having those hypnagogic hallucinations, how would those compare to the effects of other hallucinogens like acid. I ask this because, the whole connection with dmt and lucid dreaming.

[slayer]

That's a good question. I'm sure ACID has a bigger effect on hallucinations than Hypnagogic Hallucinations that you see when falling sleep, or Hynopompic Hallucinations when waking up. I asked a question a long time ago about taking ACID before going to sleep, and I was told that once you're on ACID, you won't go to sleep. Although, one person did say that their friend or someone actually fell asleep while on ACID.

[direanthony]

ohh interesting. Hynopompic Hallucinations when waking up?

[Tranquil Toad]

The hallucinations from LSD or similar psychedelics are actually quite different from hypnagonic hallucinations (at least from my experience.) Hypnagonic states usually are a jumble of recognizable images from waking life. Ie, if I was eating a bunch of pizza earlier in the day I would see a pizza really clearly as I am falling asleep. Psychedelic drugs induce images behind closed eyes (and sometimes overlaying your external environment) that are of a different quality. LSD will produce really elaborate geometric patterns that seem to be made out of intense light/energy. Think of the designs on a persian carpet, but with almost infinite complexity. Mushrooms tend to be more recognizable images and a little less abstract, but still very different from dream images. Jeweled landscapes, insectoid faces, mandalic space buddhas and strange stuff like that. And yes, you cannot fall asleep on either. However, tryptamines such as mushrooms are reported by some to greatly increase your dream states for weeks after you take them.

[The Cusp]

When you're entering SleepParalysis and start having those hypnagogic hallucinations, how would those compare to the effects of other hallucinogens like acid. I ask this because, the whole connection with dmt and lucid dreaming. It doesn't compare at all. LSD is more of a feeling, HH is just visual or auditory hallucination. The closest comparison between the two is when you become lucid naturally by becoming aware of a peculiar feeling that grows and grows until you realize you are dreaming. That's very close to when you take LSD and are waiting for it to kick in.