Thread: Parents think LDing is an occult...

no offence but ur parents seem like wackos or sumthing. anyway, why tell them in the first place??

Ask them to proof it that it's bad for you....they can't...

Parents think LDing is an occult...

It IS occult!!! But it ain't evil or bad for you. It is just occult because most people don't understand it and aren't interested in it and so it remains a "fringe" practice that is "occult" (hidden), meaning secret. It is an open secret however. Nobody is trying to keep it a secret, it is just most people remain willfully ignorant of it.
It is occult because it is the last frontier that anyone can explore. ANd it is limitless. It is a method for exploring consciousness, and it is a subjective treasure chest of revelations and insights into our own nature and identity as conscious beings who dream. It is a vast uncharted wilderness without boundaries.
Ignorant people fear self-knowledge, attributing it to the Devil. The Devil is fictitious manifestation of our own shadow. He is a manifestation of our own lack of self awareness. Many people are afraid to face the abyss within themselves because they expect to find all kinds of bogey-men there. So they stay away, clinging to the comfortable limited ego-based reality that they are familiar with, consoling themselves with stories of Heavenly saviour supermen and a loving God while they remain willfully ignorant of their own consciousness like cockroaches running across the kitchen floor when you turn the light on.
This gives rise to archetypal stories of people with self-knowledge and power, who inevitably are evil. These stories of evil people are both attractive and scary. Examples are stories of vampires, namely Dracula, Interview with a vampire, etc. Many movies reveal our fascination and fear with self-knowledge, showing cults as powerful and evil. Look at the movie Conan the Barbarian where there is a snake cult that is evil.
The snake represents self-knowledge. In the story of the Garden of Eden the serpent is evil, and self-knowledge is forbidden. Rather the demiurge JHVH would rather us be obedient animals ignorant of our own consciousness.
Exploring our consciousness has always been forbidden and feared by the Status Quo, and hence has always been occult. That is why psychedelic drugs have always been illegal, and shamans and witches burned at the stake.
It is very ironic that the one thing that makes humans so unique among animals is feared as much as our own animal nature. We fear our animal nature and we fear our consciousness! Hence the anguish of man! Satan's form is ripped off from the great God Pan (Pan means "All") who is half animal and half man. Pan has his feet in the animal realm, with the torso of a human, and the horns coming from his crown, like a halo, of awakened lucid consciousness. In the Bible many prophets were portrayed with horns, including Moses and Enoch. The horns are like rays of light.
There are many stories also that represent the fear of our animal nature: ie. werewolves. Is it a stretch to interpret the story of Little Red Riding Hood attributing the big bad wolf to lust?
As long as we remain ignorant and fearful of the full spectrum of our consciousness, from animal to exalted consciousness, it will take form as the shadow that we project all of our cultural fears onto. And people like us who practice lucid dreaming will either be dismissed as escapists who live in fantasy worlds or demonized as unwitting Satanists. Either way, we will always be misunderstood.

I don't really mention it to my parents. Sure to my best friend, but my parent's wouldn't care. I just like to keep it personal. My dad might know what it is, once we were in a Micdonalds and I asked my dad "have you ever had a dream where you could move around freely in, ya know like where your aware that your dreaming?" he said "take some vitamin B's, that'll work." And he didn't really talk much about it.

Originally Posted by bradysdreaming

I would tell my parents to F*** off!

Lol

Quite pathetic that parents would immediately reject something that they no nothing about. My parents don't know about my lucid dreaming abilities. Should they really even care anyways? It is none of their business.

my parents are pretty cool with it.. they even help me prepare (cooking the right foods, drawing up a nice relaxing bath)

my dads quite dismissive and just laughs really (don't mind him being ignorant as long as he doesn't have a problem with the whole thing) while my mum is intrigued by my new hobby, but says she's too scared to try it herself

sorry if I'm rubbing it in! just try to explain to them that it's harmless and you're just taking advantage of a phenomenon that naturally occurs in lots of people without an active interest

Originally Posted by LuceYourself

my parents are pretty cool with it.. they even help me prepare (cooking the right foods, drawing up a nice relaxing bath)

my dads quite dismissive and just laughs really (don't mind him being ignorant as long as he doesn't have a problem with the whole thing) while my mum is intrigued by my new hobby, but says she's too scared to try it herself

sorry if I'm rubbing it in! just try to explain to them that it's harmless and you're just taking advantage of a phenomenon that naturally occurs in lots of people without an active interest

Lol, now that's the way to do it. My folks like talking about it, but it's just an in-passing.

It probably helps a lot that I'm almost 20 years old, but all the same, if presented correctly no one should have a problem with it.

BTW This topic makes me lol.

My mom thinks I'm going mad because of writing down all my dreams and pinching my nose all the time.

About the closest I've gotten with my parents is just talking about dreams in general terms. Like "I had a strange dream last night..." And that gives everyone a LOT of room to decide how much they want to share with each other without feeling uncomfortable.

I don't breach the issue of "lucid dreaming".

I come from a devout Christian family, and no one I have told has any problem with it. At one point my mom stayed awake all night wondering if lucid dreaming was dangerous, and instantly started looking into lucid dreaming to see if it could be harmful in any way (this was just her protective nature taking over) She actually found this site and some posts from my account, which she recognized because my username was an old family joke.
(CaptainCrutch was my nickname when I broke my ankle and had to use crutches) The only thing she had a problem with was the "dream herbs" and substances that could be taken to enhance dreams. She said as long as I don't use any of those, she's fine with lucid dreaming.

When I told my mother, she just asked some things about it and she said that she was okay with me practising and learning about it as long as there are no dangers involved. She also gave me good advice(she is a nurse, has finished medical college or something) about things like Sleep Paralysis and give me an opinion from medical point.
My father has no problem with it, but tells me not to practise it too often so I don't have trouble sleeping.
My grandmother(today I talked to her on this subject), she is very religious but she said that she was okay with it when I read to her something about Lucid Dreaming.
My brother thinks I am crazy for trying this, but it's okay, since he considers me a lunatic in general.

As a strong believer in Jesus, Sunday school teacher, and grandparent, I sympathize with you and your parents. I decided to investigate lucid dreaming, with some reservations, about a year ago. I must say, what I have found is they are one of the most amazing experiences of life. Even many non lucid dreams seem real now. You can experience another world...an alternate reality as if real, but without consequences, or at least minimized consequences, and safe. I have been proud of my behaviour at times, and amazed also at how poorly I can also behave. But it ultimately is me dreaming and reflects who I truly am inside with the masks off. It is natural, and normal I think....something adults have suppressed in them. It is dreams so vivid you truly experience them, but still dreams. Some will not like what they find...joy, amazment, but also great fear and dispair....but even then relief and joy when awakening. I found in it amazing self-discovery and am a better person for it...more real and honest about who I am. I am in it for the rest of my life.