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      I dont live with my parents but I visit them a lot and I have told them about my sleep paralysis. My step dad has the same thing but he is very religious so he thinks the devil is coming to get him. He has dreams of being engulfed in flames on his bed and he cant move or do anything about it. He swears that he saw lucifer and he has done everything from holy water to roseries to you name it. When I was a junior in high school which is eleven years ago I was into the pagen religion more so for research then anything. So now it doesnt help my arguement much that it isnt related to wiccan magic.

      If I were you I would just not talk about it. There is a scientific explanation to all this that envolves the chemicals in our brain. It also happens to one in five people so no it isnt to do with anything about religion.

      If you want youtube sleep paralysis and there are TONS of videos on it that talk about why people have it. Stir clear of the demonic ones and show your parents. It talks about the chemicals in our brain and why it happens.

      If that doesnt work then tell them they stopped and just go on with your life. I think its an amazing thing when you go into lucid dreaming. Embrace it and vent about it on here.

      Good luck!

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      I wouldn't worry about it too much. After all, what can they do to stop you? Their minds are obviously made up already, just keep LDing to yourself.

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      I have never discussed it with my parents. They are religious, but I don't think they would think lucid dreaming is demonic or whatever. They would just probably tell me that its crazy talk haha. The only person I've really talked about it with is my sister, who was the one who actually told me about lucid dreaming in the first place. One in awhile I'd ask her for advice because she use to LD every night.. but now I can't really talk to her about it anymore because she never practices it anymore. Sometimes I try to tell my friends about it and they think its just crazy.. I also hide my dream journal from everyone, I don't know why, I guess I just don't want them to think I'm weird or get the wrong idea or something.
      I dream a lot, need not be asleep.

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      Ahh, religion you know how it goes

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      Quote Originally Posted by lVlerciless View Post
      My parents think that having Lucid Dreams is like witch craft, and evil shit, and I keep trying to tell them that all it is is realizing you're dreaming when you're dreaming, and none of that stuff is involved...

      Do your guys' parents misinterpret this too? If so, how did you finally convince them this is totally normal, and not witch craft or any of that stuff? I even showed them the homepage where it says that many people ignorant of Lucid dreaming think it is an occult, and they still do not believe me...

      Please help?
      "You can't reason with the stupid."

      If they do not base their beliefs on logic, there is no way you can convince them because they believe only to believe without asking themselves why they believe.

      They're probablly one of those dillusional christians...
      I'm not saying "God" doesn't exist, but they have no true foundation for their beliefs. A "True" belief based on a flawed belief is a flawed belief.
      How do they know the bible is true? When you ask any christian that, they change the susbject because to answer that would be to doubt their relgion because they know that the bible is most likely not true.

      They have been conditioned with fear pf hell, never to dount their god, thus, is never able to escape its methodical grasp.

      Quote Originally Posted by Mike02 View Post
      Ahh, religion you know how it goes
      Exactly.
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      My parents think I'm crazy anyway so they don't hold too much of anything I do. Maybe I am actually. They think anything I say is another one of my fantasies so they just leave me be. I gave up try to explain anything I think of or do to them (including LDing) because I know they'd never see it the way I do anyway. So whatever.

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      first of all witch-craft or a more correct therm shamanism is by no means evil,witches(the old real ones,that are in the past) and shamans are/were often very peaceful people that healed their tribe-members and tried to communicate with spirits for the better of the tribe,they often gave the tribe a sense of unity as a tribe and in touch with nature and of course spirituality
      your parents are judeo-christian i thrust
      lucid dreaming is in no way an occult and certainly not evil,anybody can learn how to lucid dream,and many people had at least one in their life
      lucid dreaming is a part of dreaming and a natural part of the human experience,and therefore a part of nature
      nothing natural can be evil. i'm not sure if absolute evil even exists,nothing is black and white,everything is a shade of gray

      but christians are very hard to convince of a different way to view something of which they have strong-helled believes,especially if they think it's evil

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      Quote Originally Posted by Clyde Machine View Post
      After being into parkour for so long, this sounds just like what I'd hear my friends say, except Stephen LaBerge would be David Belle. XD

      So, I'm going to be sleeping over at a friend's house in a week I think, and may just give him a first-hand look at how LDing is done: dream journal next to my head, drinking lots of water before sleeping, and when I lay down I get very relaxed very quickly. And when I wake, the first thing I do - before checking my phone, before getting out of bed - I started frantically scribbling in my notebook. XD

      Has anyone else taken their lucid dreaming practices over to a friend's house? Did they treat you any differently, like the parents of the OP of this thread had treated them like it was a cult?
      At my own house, yes. He noticed I was on DV, I explained lucid dreams to him, and he said that it was stupid.
      30 minutes later, he asked if he could use my computer to find out how to lucid dream.
      I'm back!

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      Quote Originally Posted by YYNYM View Post
      I explained lucid dreams to him, and he said that it was stupid.
      30 minutes later, he asked if he could use my computer to find out how to lucid dream.
      Hahahahahaha...
      My mother went from thinking it was nonsense to liking the idea of it over a period of weeks, but 30 minutes.!? xD

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      Luckily most of my friends have no religious affiliation. My christian friends do not believe dreams are signals and I have mastered the approach, so nobody thinks im a nutjob.

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      Parents also think that playing Dungeons and Dragons is evil, that Harry Potter is filled with secrets on how to contact the devil, and that smoking marijuana will cause you to become violently enraged and murder all of your loved ones.

      Lots of people believe lots of stupid things, for lots of stupid reasons. Unfortunately.

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      I haven't said anything to my parents about LDing and i don't want to.
      In my opinion, most people think that talking about your dreams in itself is stupid..
      I have friends who i tried to talk to about Lucid Dreams and they're so ignorant about the whole topic (saying they don't care about dreams and that they are pointless) that i've decided to only talk about it to my next girlfriend.
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      Quote Originally Posted by JamesLD View Post
      but it is a cult... And i am the cults prophet! ALL SHALL BOW BEFORE ME MUAHAHAHAHAHA
      WTF? It's not a cult. Speaking of cults, did you know that the prime targets of cults are educated people?
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      They're all nuts. Nothing occult about lucid dreaming at all.

      besides, learning about the occult can be fascinating.

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      It's so enjoyable to read about parents worrying that you'll be possesed, or come in contact with the devil. Dreams are after all only made up by our own sub-consciousness, so who could you be possesed by? Yourself?

      I haven't talked to my parents about this. I don't even live with them anylonger
      Luckily my folks are reasonable ^^
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      im 14 and i was always the "different" one of the family from doing the strange things like yoyoing, speed cubing, and LDing to name a few. i never talk about lucid dreaming to my family, i briefly told my sister, she thought it was BS. my parents arent religious but i dont think they would care, one of my best friends is really smart and opened minded so i talk to him about dreams and my lucid attempts and after i told him he thought it was cool. after that i promised him, that the first chance i get, im going to have a HUGE fight with him in my lucid dream then tell him about it. its one of my goals and at the top of my list
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      I don't bother telling my parents, but they'd probably just think it's weird. My whole family is deeply religious (including me) but my mom is a doctor and my dad a cop, and we all know the difference between science and religion.

      Although we do have some people (quite a few actually) who would think it's demonic. Someone from my church told me that one of her friends has severe epilepsy, and it causes them to have extremely long seizures where they wander mindlessly and repeat things, and they have no idea what's going on around them, and someone else she knows thinks that he is possessed with a demon and has tried to expel the demon on several occasions.

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      My parents don't really care much about it, I toldthem about it once or twice. My dad was genuinly interested in it and my mom is just sorta "ah that's nice..." lol
      I also told two of my best friends and they thought it was the coolest thing in the world. I dont see how anyone would think it demonic o.O
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      It is occult!

      "<slash112> percy, tell them that a lucid dream is really just a dream where ghosts invade your dreams and kill you in your sleep and then you wake up sweating them you wake up again really cold then you wake up happy"
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      yeah. i love to read fantasy and draw and stuff like that, and my grams and aunt think im' trying to escape ' so if i told my aunt, she'd roll her eyes at me and say 'thats stupid why would you do that?' or ' its not possiblle it s a load of bull' but what can you do right? You cant stop me or any of us. But she would tell my grams and dad and im afraid they'll judge me. Im only really close to my brother, who is intrested in the subject.(but i havent told him ive joined this site or anything.)
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      My parents are fascinated by the idea - and we are Christians.
      In fact, every morning when I wake up, my parents ask if I had any lucid dreams last night. If I have any, I'll describe it to them

      Too bad my mom is terrified of SP lol

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      Quote Originally Posted by Marlowe View Post
      My parents are fascinated by the idea - and we are Christians.
      In fact, every morning when I wake up, my parents ask if I had any lucid dreams last night. If I have any, I'll describe it to them

      Too bad my mom is terrified of SP lol
      Lucky, my parents show little to no fascination.
      We all live in a kind of continuous dream. When we wake, it is because something,
      some event, some pinprick even, disturbs the edges of what we have taken as reality.

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      i wish parents would be openminded and listen- they don't really give you a chance sometimes. they can be so biased.
      My goals
      [] have one intentional lucid dream...
      [] duel Voldemort
      [] Fly(broomstick?)
      [] catch a pokemon (how about a Charizard? Vulpix?)
      [] meet Jace Wayland

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      Quote Originally Posted by ShadowHunter View Post
      i wish parents would be openminded and listen- they don't really give you a chance sometimes. they can be so biased.
      I know.
      We all live in a kind of continuous dream. When we wake, it is because something,
      some event, some pinprick even, disturbs the edges of what we have taken as reality.

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      My mom was like, "huh, cool."

      My dad was like, "what. ok."

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