OBE or Lucid Dream???

**jeffreydc** · 01-19-2010 05:03 AM

I have really been trying to have an OBE over the last few weeks and cant decide if I had an OBE or lucid dream the other night. I was hoping someone on here could maybe help me decide. So here is what happened...

I remember becoming lucid while looking at paintings on a wall where there were people in them with their mouths sewn shut and yet they were still able to talk. This is weird I must be dreaming. So I remember waking up, or so I thought, and realized it was a false awakening. So I decided to try an OBE. So once I realized I was still sleeping I tried to "get up" out of my body. Every time I would sit up though I would turn around and my body would not be lying there. It would follow me but lag behind a bit like by a few milliseconds. I tried this about 3 times until I finally just sat up and took my right hand and pushed my left shoulder back and down into the bed until I found myself finally "tear" away from my body. I looked back and saw my body there and remember looking at my face and my eyes were wide open and I looked scared. I got up and looked around and was in a totally different room than my bedroom. The colors were very vivid and I tried to walk out of the room by walking through a wall that was multicolored and striped. I kept having to walk through different rooms like this though and was never able to get outside the house even after I started flying through the walls.

So was I just lucid dreaming this or is this what an OBE can be like?

**edge0125** · 01-19-2010 09:39 PM

Probably just a LD, i don't really believe in OBEs

**Clyde Machine** · 01-19-2010 11:41 PM

I agree with edge, I think that was just a lucid dream in which you saw yourself from outside your body - I've had a regular dream like that before, but it wasn't an OBE. I believe a true OBE is where you leave your mortal vessel and the world around you looks like it does in the real world. I don't know the validity of that statement, but that would be my interpretation of an OBE, and based on that I can't say that what you had was anything other than a lucid dream.

**yuriythebest** · 01-19-2010 11:43 PM

you've had a dream where you thought you were outside of your body.

**Alric** · 01-20-2010 09:36 AM

Well even if you believe in OBE, it is hard to tell the difference between them and dreams. It is almost impossible to tell the difference unless you are in a real physical location, that matches exactly with the physical world.

Starting from a dream and entering a false awakening, and having weird random walls, does hint at it being a lucid dream however. Though if you had an OBE it would probably be similiar(though less chaotic).

**yuriythebest** · 01-20-2010 11:04 AM

here is a nice skeptics view of OBE's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NwKkbd2e-c

**joti** · 01-21-2010 06:43 PM

Both the same fundamentaly, OBEs tend to be more vivid probably because you know what your room looks like better than some random place your dream throws you in!

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**Robot_Butler** · 01-21-2010 07:52 PM

I consider an OBE to be any experience where I get the sensation of leaving my body. It could be in a dream, could be from a WILD, could be from some sort of drug trip.

Even if you believe OBEs are a distinct and separate experience from lucid dreams, you have to admit they are very similar and related in many ways.